Some of the RNG is nuts...we need to get rid of it

[DeltaCyan]

the only RNG that actually infuriates me is getting cap dungeon gear. Atleast with pentamelding i can just easily get more materia and can expect it to succeed in a decent amount of time. With level cap dungeons (Baelsars Wall, the Burn, the Heroes Gauntlet, etc..) its miserable doing them for hours and hours and not getting any closer to your goal, since its complete RNG with no guaranteed drops like levelling dungeons. Yeah blue mage can help with the lower levels but that wont help you do heroes gauntlet for that TEA bis.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

the only RNG that actually infuriates me is getting cap dungeon gear. Atleast with pentamelding i can just easily get more materia and can expect it to succeed in a decent amount of time. With level cap dungeons (Baelsars Wall, the Burn, the Heroes Gauntlet, etc..) its miserable doing them for hours and hours and not getting any closer to your goal, since its complete RNG with no guaranteed drops like levelling dungeons. Yeah blue mage can help with the lower levels but that wont help you do heroes gauntlet for that TEA bis.

I do think it's bs how you can farm dungeon gear for leveling ones but not for level cap. What's the point ? It's not like dungeon stuff is ever useful in any other content than ultimates (after a few patches so you get the perfect ilvl in dungeons) for perfect minmaxing...

The rest of the RNG is fine, but That...

[Larirawiel]

Seriously, if you do not want RNG then do not play roleplaying games. And FF14 is not really full of RNG. I know games, which are far more worse in terms of RNG.


Cheers

[LianaThorne]

*cackles in Atma and book fate farming*

[Theodric]

You're extremely deluded if you think FFXIV has bad RNG.

One doesn't need to be 'extremely deluded' to come to the conclusion that some elements of the game's RNG are extremely tedious.

Then again, it seems to be a trend for certain posters to assume that even justified criticism of the game is worthy of personal attacks.

The drop rate of certain minions and card is so low that people have been farming them for quite some time only to meet with not success. Then there's the drop rate of some of the field notes in Bozja which are locked behind multiple layers of RNG in some cases.

Furthermore, just because other games have greater levels of RNG in play that doesn't mean that it suddenly ceases to be a problem when a lesser level of it is actively embraced here.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

One doesn't need to be 'extremely deluded' to come to the conclusion that some elements of the game's RNG are extremely tedious.

Then again, it seems to be a trend for certain posters to assume that even justified criticism of the game is worthy of personal attacks.

The drop rate of certain minions and card is so low that people have been farming them for quite some time only to meet with not success. Then there's the drop rate of some of the field notes in Bozja which are locked behind multiple layers of RNG in some cases.

Furthermore, just because other games have greater levels of RNG in play that doesn't mean that it suddenly ceases to be a problem when a lesser level of it is actively embraced here.

I don't think that's a personal attack, it's just... that RNG really isn't that bad. If anything, I often find it too generous, but most probably, that's just a mindset thing.

But you don't even talk about the real issues with RNG, say Fishing, for example. Bozja notes, minions... those are indeed rare, but not impossible to get. Plus... You don't HAVE to finish everything, have every note, every minion. You may want to finish that, but only to the extent that it gives you fun. If it doesn't, just stop.

Those things are valuable and valued because they're rare indeed. If they weren't, there are lots of player, maybe you're part of them, that wouldn't even care about those because they're not rare. RNG is healthy, because it makes it more rewarding to finally get what you want.

Most personal attacks are not and the fact the game doesn't give you everything on a silver plate isn't an issue. The fact you feel offended or that triggered by the fact you don't get your thingies quick enough is an issue. Take a step back and reevaluate what's important.

I know, I know, I've just said that you should get guaranted drops in level cap dungeons, but that's an annoyance, not an issue.

[Poporito_Popoto]

*cackles in Atma and book fate farming*

Having just done it...it wasn't that bad. Fates were the first things I did when I got a new book. I either farmed other fates to spawn the one I wanted, or jumped servers. The only bad fate was was Surrender. NPCs died way too quickly. I had to wait a few minutes at the spawn site to quickly protect the NPCs.

[Doc_Seraph]

The game just could use a hidden loss-counter which would increase the chance of success.

This is nice in theory kupo but when you get down to implementation I would hypothesize it to be difficult. How would the game know exactly what item you are after? How would the counter reset? Would the counter play a role in your *need/greed* rolls? If one item did drop and you won it would the global counter reset or just on that one item? Would you have to flag all the rare items (then you have to look at database stress and how it would change etc..) How would the counter variable play when rolling against others? Would it be overall "fair" etc.. It could open a can of mess lol or it could solve a lot of headache...it's all in that implementation kupo <3

One could just have very bad luck many times on a very wanted item and then nearly sell his spot if its just based on drop not roll etc.. "Selling nearly guaranteed mount drop in x raid 10mil we raid till it drops etc.."

Just saying kupo <3 lol

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Having just done it...it wasn't that bad. Fates were the first things I did when I got a new book. I either farmed other fates to spawn the one I wanted, or jumped servers. The only bad fate was was Surrender. NPCs died way too quickly. I had to wait a few minutes at the spawn site to quickly protect the NPCs.

It's been heavily nerfed.

[Vahlnir]

You're extremely deluded if you think FFXIV has bad RNG.

It does in certain places, like Bozja and its field note drops as a more recent example. But overall yeah, it could certainly be much, much worse. I think anyone who complains about bad RNG needs to run ICC 25 heroic in WoW on multiple characters for 7 years before getting a mount to drop like I did and see how bad RNG can really be.