Some of the RNG is nuts...we need to get rid of it

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

the only RNG that actually infuriates me is getting cap dungeon gear. Atleast with pentamelding i can just easily get more materia and can expect it to succeed in a decent amount of time. With level cap dungeons (Baelsars Wall, the Burn, the Heroes Gauntlet, etc..) its miserable doing them for hours and hours and not getting any closer to your goal, since its complete RNG with no guaranteed drops like levelling dungeons. Yeah blue mage can help with the lower levels but that wont help you do heroes gauntlet for that TEA bis.

I do think it's bs how you can farm dungeon gear for leveling ones but not for level cap. What's the point ? It's not like dungeon stuff is ever useful in any other content than ultimates (after a few patches so you get the perfect ilvl in dungeons) for perfect minmaxing...

The rest of the RNG is fine, but That...

[Larirawiel]

Seriously, if you do not want RNG then do not play roleplaying games. And FF14 is not really full of RNG. I know games, which are far more worse in terms of RNG.


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[Shurrikhan]

Seriously, if you do not want RNG then do not play roleplaying games. And FF14 is not really full of RNG. I know games, which are far more worse in terms of RNG.

A game being an RPG does not necessitate its having RNG (especially beyond combat staples like Crit or debuff resist chances), nor has "others are worse" ever been a sign of decent quality.

[Larirawiel]

A game being an RPG does not necessitate its having RNG (especially beyond combat staples like Crit or debuff resist chances), nor has "others are worse" ever been a sign of decent quality.

True. But RNG is typical for role playing games. I do not know one role playing game without it. And a RNG is not necessarily bad. It can increase the immersion because it is usual, that nothing will work for 100%. And i doubt, that removing the RNG from the game will make the game better. And there are other games, which are far worse than FF14, especially some asian F2P games.


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[Vahlnir]

True. But RNG is typical for role playing games. I do not know one role playing game without it. And a RNG is not necessarily bad. It can increase the immersion because it is usual, that nothing will work for 100%. And i doubt, that removing the RNG from the game will make the game better. And there are other games, which are far worse than FF14, especially some asian F2P games.


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It is typical for MMORPGs, yes. But not strictly RPGs as a whole. There are also different types of RNG, which makes RPGs and MMORPGs barely comparable.

[AnotherPerson]

I do think it's bs how you can farm dungeon gear for leveling ones but not for level cap. What's the point ? It's not like dungeon stuff is ever useful in any other content than ultimates (after a few patches so you get the perfect ilvl in dungeons) for perfect minmaxing...

The rest of the RNG is fine, but That...

It's more for bumping up your ILVL. When you're behind in an expansion, that dungeon gear is going to be useful because you wouldn't have enough tomes to afford the next level cap gear when running MSQ dungeons with a minimum level cap, but are not forced to go buy (supposing there's still stock available) the highest ilvl gear at that level cap from the marketplace to be able to continue.