Future direction of FFXIV

[Rilifane]

Didn't seem like the developers thought it was just a me problem when they kept taking potency away from Heavy Thrust and then removed it altogether.

The devs also thought that reducing healers to one button spam was a good idea. Or that placard clicking was a good idea. SB Lilies. oGCD Mudras on the high APM job. WHM MP economy. Removal of ED.
I could go on but I'm sure you realized by now that devs are humans and not infallible. So using "but the devs think the same!" as an argument for something that definitely was a you problem isn't working as well as you think it does.

[Lunalepsy]

Ive been lurking and interacting with the forum here for a good time. I know I havent been here a good majority of this game's history; or at least havent been in the forums long enough to gauge general feeback and topic trends but from the majority of people here I'm curious about something.

Do you guys feel like the current dev team is incapable to lead this game 6.1 and beyond because of the good amount of complaints between gameplay, story, and general content releases. Should we shuffle devs around or replace Yoshi-P? Are people overall happy with the state of this game?

Wanna know people's thoughts.

Future of FFXIV: Everyone gets their single-player experience.

[IdowhatIwant]

The team has done a fantastic job simplifying most jobs, butchering healers over each expansion, ignoring said healers for the past 6 years, and taking 6-8 years to somewhat fix their horrible housing system. But hey, at least the casuals are happy.

When did the housing system get fixed?

Jobs don't need to be that complicated, as long as the content keeps you busy instead, which for me it does.

That's just your opinion. My opinion differs in I think the content does not keep me busy and has gotten lazier in design, and has become less engaging. That combined with my opinion on class simplicity just makes an over all boring experience.

Of course, they sit on top of statistics to inform changes like this.

Highly doubtful. If they sat on statistics to inform changes like this, you would not have so many unhappy healers currently.

Future of FFXIV: Everyone gets their single-player experience.

FFXIV is already about 80% single player experience but soon it will be 100%.

[Minarisweet]

I think you guys should stop replying to this thread its basically just fighting over some guy having the weirdest take anyone has ever had in these forums.

[Ransu]

OP definitely a troll lol.

[KizuyaKatogami]

YES. As a WoW refugee the shit in this thread is making me cringe so hard. "Let's take what's working like gangbusters and ruin it just because."

I mean, so are we just supposed to be silent when they’re butchering the healers because some people think it’s “working?” Or be silent when they continue lowering skill ceilings of jobs, lowering engagement and fun in jobs, giving us less things, and then telling people “oh if you want your job to be engaging, go play Ultimate, a piece of content that only gets something new once an expansion if you’re lucky.” Great developer work, 10/10. It’s working guys.

[SyphinAes]

I mean, so are we just supposed to be silent when they’re butchering the healers because some people think it’s “working?” Or be silent when they continue lowering skill ceilings of jobs, lowering engagement and fun in jobs, giving us less things, and then telling people “oh if you want your job to be engaging, go play Ultimate, a piece of content that only gets something new once an expansion if you’re lucky.” Great developer work, 10/10. It’s working guys.

No, but some of this feedback is so generic as to be poison. It's like people are wanting the WoW-style remaking of the game and fucking up of every class every expansion, which is downright bananas to me. There are people advocating for removing Yoshi-P when he's led the development of one of the most popular and enjoyable MMOs on the market. There are people complaining about the consistency, which is something most games could only dream of.

Specific criticisms are good. Generic hand-wavy make-it-different shit is just that. shit.

[Ransu]

No, but some of this feedback is so generic as to be poison. It's like people are wanting the WoW-style remaking of the game and fucking up of every class every expansion, which is downright bananas to me. There are people advocating for removing Yoshi-P when he's led the development of one of the most popular and enjoyable MMOs on the market. There are people complaining about the consistency, which is something most games could only dream of.

Specific criticisms are good. Generic hand-wavy make-it-different shit is just that. shit.

Ya, all the WoW players advocating for this game to play like the game they just left because its been murdering itself for the last several expansions is just comical to me. Like I said earlier though, its pretty obvious OP is a troll and its a shame this thread has gone on for 25 pages lol. Anyone who advocates that Yoshi-P and the devs should be replaced or complains about content releases in a game that has a consistent release schedule of content every few months is either a troll or is hyper focused on a single piece of content. In no way can anyone legitimately complain about the content this game releases when most other MMO's go nearly an entire year without any major content updates.

[ForteNightshade]

Ya, all the WoW players advocating for this game to play like the game they just left because its been murdering itself for the last several expansions is just comical to me. Like I said earlier though, its pretty obvious OP is a troll and its a shame this thread has gone on for 25 pages lol. Anyone who advocates that Yoshi-P and the devs should be replaced or complains about content releases in a game that has a consistent release schedule of content every few months is either a troll or is hyper focused on a single piece of content. In no way can anyone legitimately complain about the content this game releases when most other MMO's go nearly an entire year without any major content updates.

Hi, non-WoW player here. In fact, FFXIV is only my second MMO ever; my first being Guild Wars. In terms of content I partake in, I...

• Have every Primal mount; most farmed on content
• 300+ minions
• Am an Omni-crafter
• Have cleared every Savage fight since Creator
• Have farmed every Ultimate weapon
• Have 5+ relics from every expansion save SB; where I only finished three

I could go on but needless to say, I participate in a LOT of content. Even on the casual side, I spam 24 mans, dungeons and so forth. I even have alts. So when I criticism the lack of content, I'm speaking from a place of experience with said content. 6.1 is about to release and if it weren't for Dragonsong, I'd have the patch finished over the weekend. It has virtually nothing to terms of content longevity besides farming Endsinger until her mount drops.

None of this is to say other MMOs don't have their own issues. Frankly, I couldn't care less because I don't play them. I do, however, care about this one.

Not only does the content itself lack in longevity, everything has become increasingly easy. Crafting is an absolute joke; most jobs have been simplified in some form or another; healers are essentially boring DPS with one button that sometimes heal and so forth. Obviously, FFXIV does a lot right or we wouldn't all be here. That does not, however, absolve it from criticism.

[Ransu]

Hi, non-WoW player here. In fact, FFXIV is only my second MMO ever; my first being Guild Wars. In terms of content I partake in, I...

• Have every Primal mount; most farmed on content
• 300+ minions
• Am an Omni-crafter
• Have cleared every Savage fight since Creator
• Have farmed every Ultimate weapon
• Have 5+ relics from every expansion save SB; where I only finished three

I could go on but needless to say, I participate in a LOT of content. Even on the casual side, I spam 24 mans, dungeons and so forth. I even have alts. So when I criticism the lack of content, I'm speaking from a place of experience with said content. 6.1 is about to release and if it weren't for Dragonsong, I'd have the patch finished over the weekend. It has virtually nothing to terms of content longevity besides farming Endsinger until her mount drops.

None of this is to say other MMOs don't have their own issues. Frankly, I couldn't care less because I don't play them. I do, however, care about this one.

Not only does the content itself lack in longevity, everything has become increasingly easy. Crafting is an absolute joke; most jobs have been simplified in some form or another; healers are essentially boring DPS with one button that sometimes heal and so forth. Obviously, FFXIV does a lot right or we wouldn't all be here. That does not, however, absolve it from criticism.

That's called you need to take a break...You are the .01% that consumes content way too fast.