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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I'll never understand why people play a multiplayer game and then get annoyed when they have to do multiplayer things.
    Because the game is fun solo despite there being other people in it. Primarily. Also because sometimes humans find alternate uses for things - aside from what the creator intended - and we enjoy those alternate uses. Such as playing an MMO despite preferring solo play.

    I completely respect and understand why you, personally, would not complain about having to play with other humans in a multiplayer game. But feigning ignorance as to why other people do it is silly. Surely you understand subjectivity and the infinite spectrum of needs and desires, along with the human tendency to complain about things.

    So, the direct answer to your question is because some humans find solo play fun, and there is plenty of solo play in this game. Some humans will then play this game mostly solo while still disliking group play. As humans commonly do, some will complain about entertainment that isn't entirely satisfying... even if they voluntarily chose entertainment that clearly won't be entirely satisfying!

    And as for never understanding why:

    Why do you complain about them? Same reason. Because humans get hooked on the idea that the "way to do it" in their brain is the "right" or "only" way. When humans see behavior contrary to what they believe to be "right," then they complain. Caveman behavior, yeah... but oh so fashionable.






    ...Humans sometimes. For pete's sake LOL.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 03-19-2022 at 09:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    I completely respect and understand why you, personally, would not complain about having to play with other humans in a multiplayer game. But feigning ignorance as to why other people do it is silly. Surely you understand subjectivity and the infinite spectrum of needs and desires, along with the human tendency to complain about things.
    I'm not feigning ignorance. I solo a lot myself, but the idea of playing a multiplayer game and then complaining that you can't 100% solo everything is absolutely ridiculous. It would be like me going to a forum for a single player game and complaining there's no multiplayer.

    You can already solo 90% of the game, its not the end of the world running a dungeon every few levels. Thankfully trusts are horribly slow making running with players still the superior option, but I overall was and still am completely against the existence of trusts in this game. They basically ruined FFXI for me and I was not happy when they announced them in XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I'll never understand why people play a multiplayer game and then get annoyed when they have to do multiplayer things.
    Well I do not mind playing with other people at all. Matter of fact, I rather enjoy some of the flashpoints etc. But, when I have to wait for a flashpoint/dungeon or whatever, pop for my story progression, it is annoying. I sat waiting on a flashpoint to pop for almost 30 minutes. It would make more sense for those story progression flashpoints/dungeons to be done with NPC party members.
    As far as doing multi-player stuff, it IS fun, and I do enjoy those when I CHOOSE to do them.

    I am just saying that, for me, having to wait for those to populate while doing the SOLO STORY portion, is no fun.
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    Thank you all for the comments!
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    1. With "skills tree", if you mean being able to choose something different from another player of the same job, they were a bit more choices in the past. And they were removed because everyone were taking the same most useful and optimised thing, making the rest useless to have in the game. Most of other mmos with "choices" are having this problem too. For example when i was playing GW2 there was a lot of people who did tell me "why did you choose these skills ? Go copy/paste this build from metabattle, nodody is playing with what you are using", when i did choose some things for fun rather than conforming to the META. There is still a bit of fake "choices" in FF14 as well : if you jump into the latest savage raids with your tank, don't do it with tenacity melds if you don't want some people harshly telling you that crit/dh/det is better.

    3. I think this is fine because unlike other crafting classes, cooking doesn't require intermediate ingredients from other classes all the time. For example if i want to do some armor, i will often need some leather or jewels i can't do with the armorer, wich makes the item more lengthy and difficult to do. If you lower the ingredients required for culinarian recipes, they will become way too easy to do compared to other crafting classes... and people will probably start asking to nerf them as well for the sake of making everything balanced. As if crafting was not dumbed down enough already.

    3. Yes, another 3. Needing a lot of ingredients is realistic. Did you never get baited by some "do this delicious recipe with eggs and milk only !" Youtube thumbnails, to realise once watching the whole video that on top of the "only" two advertised ingredients, you also need this one, and this one, and this other one too ? XD
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