Results 1 to 10 of 29

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Lyth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Meracydia
    Posts
    3,883
    Character
    Lythia Norvaine
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    I doubt that 'technology' in the conventional sense would have existed to begin with in a society of gods. Necessity is the mother of invention, and if you ever actually wanted for anything, you'd simply will it into existence using Creation magic. That's likely also why the Garleans are the most technologically advanced people that we know of, simply because they had to supplement a relative inability to use magic with actual technological know-how in order to survive.
    (5)

  2. #2
    Player
    Enkidoh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Ala Mhigo
    Posts
    8,331
    Character
    Enkidoh Roux
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    I doubt that 'technology' in the conventional sense would have existed to begin with in a society of gods. Necessity is the mother of invention, and if you ever actually wanted for anything, you'd simply will it into existence using Creation magic. That's likely also why the Garleans are the most technologically advanced people that we know of, simply because they had to supplement a relative inability to use magic with actual technological know-how in order to survive.
    Actually, the Ancients did seem to have quite a bit of technology in use, showing that not everything was simply conjured into being with Creation magic - aetherytes for instance was an Ancient pre-Sundering invention, and there also seemed to be some kind of computational devices in use (the Watcher's Palace on the Moon for instance has something called 'The Pillar of Industry' that is essentially for all intents and purposes a vending machine, the same place also has mechanical clocks in use (they have pendulems and timing regulation weights so they clearly have mechanical movements inside).

    To say nothing of the loporrits using what are clearly computers with 3D holographic displays (and to writ, they also could use Creation Magic), and that the Moon itself has an engine, (remember, the Moon was also created by an Ancient (Venat). And the Ancients' lighting is actually electric (a broken light fitting shown in the Akademia Aynder for instance is shown sparking and flickering exactly like a broken electric light), so their knowledge was clearly highly advanced and not merely a reflection of their powers over Creation magic. Creation magic (and magic in general) went hand in hand with technology, the later does fit in with the 'Roaring 20's/Art-Deco' feel Amaurot had.
    (5)
    Last edited by Enkidoh; 03-18-2022 at 01:23 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

  3. #3
    Player
    Gemina's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Dravania
    Posts
    5,778
    Character
    Gemina Lunarian
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Actually, the Ancients did seem to have quite a bit of technology in use, showing that not everything was simply conjured into being with Creation magic - aetherytes for instance was an Ancient pre-Sundering invention, and there also seemed to be some kind of computational devices in use (the Watcher's Palace on the Moon for instance has something called 'The Pillar of Industry' that is essentially for all intents and purposes a vending machine, the same place also has mechanical clocks in use (they have pendulems and timing regulation weights so they clearly have mechanical movements inside).

    To say nothing of the loporrits using what are clearly computers with 3D holographic displays (and to writ, they also could use Creation Magic), and that the Moon itself has an engine, (remember, the Moon was also created by an Ancient (Venat). And the Ancients' lighting is actually electric (a broken light fitting shown in the Akademia Aynder for instance is shown sparking and flickering exactly like a broken electric light), so their knowledge was clearly highly advanced and not merely a reflection of their powers over Creation magic. Creation magic (and magic in general) went hand in hand with technology, the later does fit in with the 'Roaring 20's/Art-Deco' feel Amaurot had.
    The only thing I will interject here is the Loporrits have had thousands of years to advance their technology, and even attest to this themselves. I don't know how much Venat actually had a role in the moon's construction opposed to just ordering the Loporrits to build it.

    That is very minor though and our time in Elpis definitely shows the Ancient's technological knowledge is far beyond primitive. I would also say that the Loporitt's affinity for technology is more learned than inherited, and someone had to show them.

    For OP, the rate at which time flows isn't much different on the first than it is on the source. What's different is the passage of time on the source and its reflections. What I mean by this is if you travel the dimensional rift from the source to the first, you will age on the first as you would normally on the source. However, you could spend months and even years on the first, return to the source, and find that only days or even hours have passed by.

    This is actually one of my issues with this kind of travel within FFXIV. There is no point to add these kind of caveats to travel if they cannot remain consistent. We can now travel to and fro the source and first without consequence other than what the Scions initially feel upon our arrival to the Crystarium.
    (1)