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    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carmabis View Post
    Why don't men want to wear feminine clothing in general?
    Because feminine clothing is constructed around the feminine form, ere go it tends to look bad on the masculine form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Because feminine clothing is constructed around the feminine form, ere go it tends to look bad on the masculine form.
    This.

    Plus despite what subversive elements may seek to push, many men are happy embracing their masculinity much in the same way as many women are happy embracing their femininity. Exceptions exist, of course, but they're very much a minority albeit a very vocal one at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    This.

    Plus despite what subversive elements may seek to push, many men are happy embracing their masculinity much in the same way as many women are happy embracing their femininity. Exceptions exist, of course, but they're very much a minority albeit a very vocal one at that.
    What is "their" masculinity and "their" femininity? What does this mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Because feminine clothing is constructed around the feminine form, ere go it tends to look bad on the masculine form.
    What are we including in feminine clothing? Suffocating underwear in fabrics that can cause yeast infections? Heels that destroy tendon structure to the point of chronic pain and lack of ability to walk properly without them the more often they're worn? Clothes that show more skin? Bra's that exist for almost no reason for a majority of the female populace except to hide the female nipple as it has been deemed "vulgar" yet also hyper-sexualizing what's "allowed" in the form of push-up bras and cleavage? I have to assume you mean these specifically enforced clothing choices for WOMEN because if you're talking about BODY TYPES, then that's completely null as there are so many different types between the sexes, that to deem one style meant for men and one for women just through sheer "designed for them" is absurd (surely that's not your argument, that short-shorts, mini-skirts, boob windows, are all designed for the "feminine" forms out of the sheer fact that they look "better" on them, otherwise men would be wearing these as often if they were a. short b. dainty and/or c. not incredibly muscular as stereotypically, those are deemed feminine features).

    So I'll assume you mean clothing designed for females. How are heels that destroy ligament integrity designed for women? Would they not look good on a man who has broad hips and long legs? That's what they're advertised to accentuate, yet somehow it's a general expectancy for women to wear them regardless of hip size/leg length and men aren't expected to wear them no matter their body shape. They would destroy men's feet just the same if they wore them as often as women were expected to (not so much as high-heel laws dont exist too often anymore, socially its still more expected out of them). How is impractical underwear that can cause multiple issues with vagina health designed more for women, when those same fabrics would cause LESS issues on men? Why are men not wearing lacey underwear more when it has an incredibly lower chance of causing any genital issues? Why are men with large amounts of breast tissue not advised to wear bras to help with back pain and/or look more put-together in a professional environment?

    I know why. And you know why, as well. Men don't usually like wearing clothing designed for women because it signifies a role and that role is to be objectified. But it's a lot easier to convince women to be okay with being objectified if you argue that it's any reason BUT that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Because feminine clothing is constructed around the feminine form, ere go it tends to look bad on the masculine form.
    Also like I get this to an extent but also I specifically asked why women don't get basic, practical versions of outfits and and men get the performative version of it. What would the equivalent of that be with pants for women and something excessive and different for men? Why does that not exist in the game? At the very least, why are there no default outfits where it's shown to be a min-skirt and then CHANGES to pants on a man at the very least!?
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