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    MiaShino's Avatar
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    Mia Shino
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    There are many many male only shorts. Shorts! How the heck am I unable to wear certain shorts!? Really I just wish for several nice pairs of shorts because I happen to like wearing those but nooooooo only skirts for you!

    Ohhhh also kinda wish I could hang my sword over the shoulder too. It is already most silly seeing my lala swinging about one sword twice their size who cares if I sling the sword over the shoulder..
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    Sadie Rose
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    There are many many male only shorts. Shorts! How the heck am I unable to wear certain shorts!? Really I just wish for several nice pairs of shorts because I happen to like wearing those but nooooooo only skirts for you!

    Ohhhh also kinda wish I could hang my sword over the shoulder too. It is already most silly seeing my lala swinging about one sword twice their size who cares if I sling the sword over the shoulder..
    The sage gear got to me on this. It looks so comfy on my guy, then bam, it's suddenly a mini-skirt like omg...why...I forgot being female naturally meant I must prefer skirts.
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    E'renndis Harper
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    Moogle
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Carmabis View Post
    The sage gear got to me on this. It looks so comfy on my guy, then bam, it's suddenly a mini-skirt like omg...why...I forgot being female naturally meant I must prefer skirts.
    Hate this so much. Barely have any normal looking pants...
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    Ein'sf Florr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    There are many many male only shorts. Shorts! How the heck am I unable to wear certain shorts!? Really I just wish for several nice pairs of shorts because I happen to like wearing those but nooooooo only skirts for you!
    There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by einschwartz View Post
    There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

    The expeditioner's pantalettes (top right) can be worn by males now.
    I can finally create my MCH Larry Croft glam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by einschwartz View Post
    There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

    Do you have a list of what the different items are? I need some of those in my life.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Do you have a list of what the different items are? I need some of those in my life.
    1 2 3
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    1. Skallic bottoms of aiming
    2. Makai (various) – these are part of the Garo collaboration sets and currently not available in the game.
    3. Expeditioner's pantalettes/kecks
    4. Skallic bottoms of striking
    5. Spring bottoms
    6. Pagos culottes / Rainbow culottes of striking – also shared model (in different colours) with Arachne culottes of casting/healing
    7. Type-53 bottoms of casting/healing
    8. Gryphonskin pantalettes / Uraeus breeches
    9. Spriggan bottoms
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    Black Tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by einschwartz View Post
    There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

    Finally, someone understands the suffering of a male character who lacks all the cute shorts for no reason at all.
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    Sadie Rose
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CCheshire View Post
    Finally, someone understands the suffering of a male character who lacks all the cute shorts for no reason at all.
    It's not no reason at all, it's distinctly because yes theyre cute, but they're performative and men aren't expected to perform. I love and agree that yes everyone should get options but y'all are really digressing from the point that they ALREADY allowed males in the game to wear multiple female-only hyper-sexualized outfits. My point was distinctly about single item's having female versions that are blatantly different that what the item is advertised specifically because the character is female. And most of these changes are to show off more skin and become way more impractical. I'm asking that this option be switched specifically because its enforcing the sexist idea that women inherently want to perform and sexualize themselves, yet they don't have a choice when that's all theyre given.

    I get wanting cute shorts as a male character, I do. But "wanting" to have fun decorating yourself (when theyve already expanded those options, anyways, compared to what they've now allowed females to wear) and adding this to a post where this decoration is FORCED onto a sex and clearly multiple people have an issue with this takes away the point of it a bit.

    Wanting the same performative outfits forced onto women isn't the same as not wanting to be forced into those performative outfits. In some cases, it can even normalize forcing women into them because if so many men want them, clearly there's nothing sexist about them existing—aka, as I'll say again, multiple feminine outfits being opened up for men but little to no comparison of male outfits for women.
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by einschwartz View Post
    There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

    Most of these change with gender. But I know the top middle is two different items, one for female, one for male. Personally I think they should all be separate items, but equitable by all. Yeah I know that's a lot of work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carmabis View Post
    ...men aren't expected to perform.
    um... ok
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    Last edited by MsQi; 03-18-2022 at 07:10 AM.
    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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