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  1. #1
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    Illmaeran's Avatar
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    Trachynwyda Fyreynwyn
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    Please add all Poetics gear to all Sundry Splendors Vendors

    Being locked out of buying level appropriate Poetics gear due to MSQ progression is incredibly frustrating. I would ask that we please be able to buy any and all Poetics gear from any and all Splendors Vendors wherever they are and Sundry Splendors Vendors in the main cities.

    Why do I ask? Not too long ago I made an alt to replay through ARR and HW as a fresh character, not on my main through NG+. The XP buff from earrings, rings, rest, and food was significant enough to put me at level 25 while on level 15 quests. At that point, I stopped doing ALL side quests and did ONLY MSQ and Aether Current quests, with some roulettes and a few Challenge Log things. Doing only this content, I started HW at level 58, ended HW at 76, bought a Stormblood skip (zero SB XP gain), and am now at level 80 just about to start Rak'tika.

    Unfortunately, the Sundry Splendors Vendor in the Crystarium aetheryte plaza hasn't shown up yet, likely due to lack of MSQ progress.

    I've got a crafter that can supply gear and have done so to remain current. The issue to resolve is being able to buy Poetics gear of the appropriate level when needed. I'm at the point where I'm having to waste them on low level gear for retainers to avoid capping when I'd much rather spend them on myself.

    Please add all poetics gear to all of Rowena's Girls in all locations so people who end up over leveled can buy level appropriate gear without being locked behind MSQ progression.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    I just want to see the main poetics vendors open at level X8 pre-credits like Idyllshire does at 58.

    The story opportunities are there: at 68 we return from Othard to find Rhalgr's Reach repaired from the Garlean raid damage. At 78 we liberate Eulmore and gain access to the main aetheryte.

    It feels designed to allow the shops to open at that point, but they don't.
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    Poetics are for gearing up your alternate classes, not your main. This is working as intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    Poetics are for gearing up your alternate classes, not your main. This is working as intended.
    Sorry, but that doesn't really make sense. Once an expansion is no longer current and the top-tier augmented tome gearset is purchased with poetics, that absolutely is what you want to be buying for your main job once you hit that level threshold. The weaker gear given as quest rewards is what goes to your alt job.
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  5. 03-11-2022 12:10 AM
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    multi-quoted in below post

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    Thea Sitori
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    "i bought a level skip, and the game should accommodate to my style of playing instead of how it works naturally"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Sorry, but that doesn't really make sense.
    That doesn't change that it is the actual case. The poetics vendors were designed to allow you to gear up your alternate characters because your mains will get gear appropriate to your level as you do the MSQ. I'm sorry if you don't like it or think it shouldn't be that way, but that's the entire point of poetics in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    "i bought a level skip, and the game should accommodate to my style of playing instead of how it works naturally"
    Not at all. It's very easy to end up overlevelled and capped on poetics if you're doing side content and roulettes as you go.

    I've played the game several times with alts and there is very often a point where you're getting close to the end of a main expansion (let's say level 79-80 quests in Shadowbringers), you have a full wallet of 2000 poetics and have already geared up all your classes with level 70 gear. Your main job has hit 80 and you're ready to start gearing it, but the vendor isn't open, and buying other gear in the interim feels like a waste of gil.

    It's particularly bad for DNC and GNB at 70 because you don't even get the free job gear so you need to buy them something just to be on even footing with everyone else, and the gear that you actually want is out of reach until you get past the dungeon that you need gear for.


    Edit to add: On further thought, it's definitely not about having paid for a level skip because those come with a complete set of augmented tome gear included in the purchase, so a skipper has no need at all for early access to the vendor.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 03-11-2022 at 01:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    The poetics vendors were designed to allow you to gear up your alternate characters
    The poetics vendors were designed to sell you gear for poetics, whatever you plan to use it for. There are no rules on which class you have to allocate the good poetics gear and which class gets the second-rate MSQ gifts.
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    Trachynwyda Fyreynwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    "i bought a level skip, and the game should accommodate to my style of playing instead of how it works naturally"
    On the contrary, I played through the entirety of ARR and HW and ended at level 76 when I finished HW. The entire point of making the alt was to replay through ARR and HW to see all the story things I'd forgotten or just totally missed when playing them the first time. I even stopped using xp food and did ZERO non MSQ/aether current/trial unlock quests past the level 15 quest tier to minimize XP gain and have stuff available for a secondary job if I ever decided to take one.

    I have personal, out of game reasons, for not wanting to play Stormblood, so I got an MSQ skip. All that did was let me bypass the SB MSQ and get directly into ShB; there was no XP gain associated with it. I was already mid-Shadowbringers tier level (76); well above the max for Stormblood. In fact, even if I didn't have reason to not play SB, I probably would have bought the skip simply to prevent hitting level 90 early in Shadowbringers rather than what will end up being early EW.

    I've geared up this guy (my main) with Poetics gear to level PLD and don't see how having full sets available at 50, 60, 70, and 80 on him is functionally different than a new player, or someone on an alt, being able to use the tomestones they've earned for gear of an appropriate level.

    I'm not asking for a significant alteration to the game; I'm asking for a change to be made to accommodate the increased XP gain (a significant change to how the game "naturally works") and trend of over-leveling while playing through the MSQ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    That doesn't change that it is the actual case. The poetics vendors were designed to allow you to gear up your alternate characters because your mains will get gear appropriate to your level as you do the MSQ. I'm sorry if you don't like it or think it shouldn't be that way, but that's the entire point of poetics in the first place.
    Poetics are/were a catch up mechanism to allow people to come in later in an expansion cycle and get caught up before moving on. They also happen to be a great way of gearing secondary jobs and retainers. Being a gear catch up mechanic, giving over-leveled players the opportunity to catch up their gear to a level-appropriate point seems to me to be fully in the spirit of Poetics.
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    Last edited by Illmaeran; 03-11-2022 at 02:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    "i bought a level skip, and the game should accommodate to my style of playing instead of how it works naturally"
    level skips give you a full set of tomestone plus one final dungeon ring for the level
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