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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0xReki View Post
    Sad... I guess I'll just stop playing. FF is not worth my time getting Windows to run again.
    Hey, not all is lost..
    While it's sickening, there are ways, like the ones I've posted, GPU passthrough (I mean, those walkarounds should be unnecessary, considering that... (drumroll) old launcher for mac already was using CEF https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Pro...ent-1042099897)
    But, it's better to have M$ bloated spyware called Windows in the contained VM, while having its capabilities, than to lose the pleasure of such great MMO - and let's be honest - we're a niche. Especially when WoW players like the M$ SAM (geddit?) in topic here are flowing the servers with their crap.

    Other than that... either Wine devs will take their effort to support, so inverse enginee ran outdated M$ tech, or SE will bring back old launcher with updated JS, or they'll make a whole, new one, using new, open source tech (or even the CEF they're using thus far for Macs)
    Hard decisions.
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    Last edited by Kaosuran; 03-09-2022 at 05:18 AM.

  2. #22
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    https://github.com/goatcorp/FFXIVQui...her/issues/737

    Might be another possibility to look out for.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaosuran View Post
    Hey, not all is lost..
    While it's sickening, there are ways, like the ones I've posted, GPU passthrough (I mean, those walkarounds should be unnecessary, considering that... (drumroll) old launcher for mac already was using CEF https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Pro...ent-1042099897)
    But, it's better to have M$ bloated spyware called Windows in the contained VM, while having its capabilities, than to lose the pleasure of such great MMO - and let's be honest - we're a niche. Especially when WoW players like the M$ SAM (geddit?) in topic here are flowing the servers with their crap.

    Other than that... either Wine devs will take their effort to support, so inverse enginee ran outdated M$ tech, or SE will bring back old launcher with updated JS, or they'll make a whole, new one, using new, open source tech (or even the CEF they're using thus far for Macs)
    Hard decisions.
    vm w/ GPU passthrough would require me to have a 2nd graphics adapter, which i don't.
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    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Backo View Post
    https://github.com/goatcorp/FFXIVQui...her/issues/737

    Might be another possibility to look out for.
    I was afraid to link it tbh
    But I doubt they'll do anything about it, 'cause they were using old launcher as a backend thus far.. if it (new launcher) fails to load due to Wine's lack of features, it might a problem to resolve it... but mayhaps... fingers crossed
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0xReki View Post
    vm w/ GPU passthrough would require me to have a 2nd graphics adapter, which i don't.
    I've linked a single GPU approach https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5866211
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaosuran View Post
    Ever heard of... Steam Deck?
    https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-...he-steam-deck/
    Just to remind you

    Nothing you say

    I must've imagined that Steam has anything to do with Valve or SE's FF14...
    Steam is nothing more than a store. SE has no obligation to support valves steam deck.
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  7. #27
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    Show me on your proprietary M$ Teddy Bear ©, where the bad Tux touched you hun.
    Seeing that you have to go into a topic that doesn't relate to you in any way and you create spam that nobody asked for... get a life or your M$ paycheck already.

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    Last edited by Kaosuran; 03-09-2022 at 06:29 AM.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Steam is nothing more than a store. SE has no obligation to support valves steam deck.
    They sure don’t, but the possibility is still there, I am not sure but could guess at some point there would be more Steam Deck users than MacOS users, and considering how effortless it would be for them to fix the launcher and get the game working for Steam Deck I don’t see why they shouldn’t support it.

    On the MacOS side the first release was a failure and they ended up offering a refund for every user who couldn’t get the game working.

    FFXIV on Steam Proton has been working for a couple of years without SE having to make so many adjustments as they had to for MacOS and in some cases (my Desktop computer for example) it ran even better than in Windows.

    I’m just hoping we can get an answer on their side, either a positive or a negative one, as setting up kvm is the last option I want to consider. I would prefer to run the game smoothly without having those telemetry services running on the background in the middle of an instance or that windows using 50% of my ssd in a critical moment. I know its just a matter of preference but hoping to hear something from SE.
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  9. #29
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    Firinel Andune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Steam is nothing more than a store. SE has no obligation to support valves steam deck.
    Except that Square Enix doesn't treat it as "nothing more than a store." Steam licenses are sold as separate licenses for a separate platform, being treated on the same footing as Windows, Mac, etc. If SE wants to treat Steam as its own platform, then they either need to support that platform or discontinue selling an independent license for it. They do not sell separate licenses for every other digital store that carries FFXIV.
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    He's just trolling to get attention.
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