Old launcher no longer working

[Kaosuran]

Sad... I guess I'll just stop playing. FF is not worth my time getting Windows to run again.

Hey, not all is lost..
While it's sickening, there are ways, like the ones I've posted, GPU passthrough (I mean, those walkarounds should be unnecessary, considering that... (drumroll) old launcher for mac already was using CEF https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Pro...ent-1042099897)
But, it's better to have M$ bloated spyware called Windows in the contained VM, while having its capabilities, than to lose the pleasure of such great MMO - and let's be honest - we're a niche. Especially when WoW players like the M$ SAM (geddit?) in topic here are flowing the servers with their crap.

Other than that... either Wine devs will take their effort to support, so inverse enginee ran outdated M$ tech, or SE will bring back old launcher with updated JS, or they'll make a whole, new one, using new, open source tech (or even the CEF they're using thus far for Macs)
Hard decisions.

[0xReki]

Hey, not all is lost..
While it's sickening, there are ways, like the ones I've posted, GPU passthrough (I mean, those walkarounds should be unnecessary, considering that... (drumroll) old launcher for mac already was using CEF https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Pro...ent-1042099897)
But, it's better to have M$ bloated spyware called Windows in the contained VM, while having its capabilities, than to lose the pleasure of such great MMO - and let's be honest - we're a niche. Especially when WoW players like the M$ SAM (geddit?) in topic here are flowing the servers with their crap.

Other than that... either Wine devs will take their effort to support, so inverse enginee ran outdated M$ tech, or SE will bring back old launcher with updated JS, or they'll make a whole, new one, using new, open source tech (or even the CEF they're using thus far for Macs)
Hard decisions.

vm w/ GPU passthrough would require me to have a 2nd graphics adapter, which i don't.

[Kaosuran]

vm w/ GPU passthrough would require me to have a 2nd graphics adapter, which i don't.

I've linked a single GPU approach https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5866211

[Kaosuran]

The game has worked flawlessly for me in Linux using Steam Proton over the last several months, but I also had to use the workaround of using the old launcher. Throwing my +1 on the pile for no longer being able to login due to this forced update. Really frustrating that the launcher of all things is what's preventing us from playing.

if anyone happens to find another workaround by any means (such as winetools), please share it!

Hi! I doubt there is any workaround, Wine simply does not support weird M$ outdated ways of tech.. They're working on that: https://source.winehq.org/git/wine.g...ommit&s=mshtml
But, it being outdated AF and having LOTS of work to do to have it supported - it will take a hell of time to get it done...

The only thing I can recommend you RN is Virtual Machine with a passthrough - I've linked it here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5866211

[Kaosuran]

Oh, then I got the `sorry, we don't support Linux.` one XD I've replied with:

If you were business-wise OK with cutting out Linux playerbase, you should be business-wise OK with some kind of a refund for that. I know it was not your decision, but I hope that my feedback will somehow get to people responsible for that.

But it seems, supports got busy since the latest deploy - so let's hope that someone will speak out to the managers and make things right there...

I dunno how many Linux/Steam Deck players there are - but let's unite, speak out, and don't let the corp (or dare I say Ascians?) to push us around
Rn I'm trying single GPU passthrough, if it renders as a failure, I might as well try to reach out to Wine team and figure out M$ ways of doing things.

[darkvalefor]

The virtual machine method will work on desktop but I highly doubt it will work on the deck running Steam OS.

Also no matter the OS running on an html engine that is no longer supported by Microsoft is probably not a good idea for the launcher and a good reason to update careless the OS.

[Kaosuran]

The virtual machine method will work on desktop but I highly doubt it will work on the deck running Steam OS.

Also no matter the OS running on an html engine that is no longer supported by Microsoft is probably not a good idea for the launcher and a good reason to update careless the OS.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil.../?id=483912034 - There are some ways!

However I heartfully agree - it's quite bad to make security patches, just to force-rely on an outdated, proprietary tech.

[El_Backo]

https://github.com/goatcorp/FFXIVQui...her/issues/737

Might be another possibility to look out for.

[Kaosuran]

https://github.com/goatcorp/FFXIVQui...her/issues/737

Might be another possibility to look out for.

I was afraid to link it tbh
But I doubt they'll do anything about it, 'cause they were using old launcher as a backend thus far.. if it (new launcher) fails to load due to Wine's lack of features, it might a problem to resolve it... but mayhaps... fingers crossed

[darkvalefor]

Steam is nothing more than a store. SE has no obligation to support valves steam deck.

They sure don’t, but the possibility is still there, I am not sure but could guess at some point there would be more Steam Deck users than MacOS users, and considering how effortless it would be for them to fix the launcher and get the game working for Steam Deck I don’t see why they shouldn’t support it.

On the MacOS side the first release was a failure and they ended up offering a refund for every user who couldn’t get the game working.

FFXIV on Steam Proton has been working for a couple of years without SE having to make so many adjustments as they had to for MacOS and in some cases (my Desktop computer for example) it ran even better than in Windows.

I’m just hoping we can get an answer on their side, either a positive or a negative one, as setting up kvm is the last option I want to consider. I would prefer to run the game smoothly without having those telemetry services running on the background in the middle of an instance or that windows using 50% of my ssd in a critical moment. I know its just a matter of preference but hoping to hear something from SE.