Job action combos one button

[Shurrikhan]

PvP too was also more engaging on the gameplay level before they did this.

Again, though, you're conflating actions with buttons. Those changes did not just consolidate our actions. They reduced them by nearly half.

A HW PVP DRG, for instance, effectively had some ~20 real, separable actions (no, I do not count but one move per combo among those, as we'd still never rush or reset them even in PvP). It then added 5 further (much more interesting) PvP skills atop that, for a total of ~25.
Now, a PVP DRG has just 12 separable actions, and then just 2 (much less interesting) PvP skills, for a total of 14.

That pruning was in no small part because they felt the button counts were overwhelming. Had they just consolidated the bloat beforehand, that wouldn't have been an issue, nor an available excuse for action/decision pruning.

[Canadane]

Again, though, you're conflating actions with buttons

I am not.
Press 1-2-3 is inherently more fun than pressing 1-1-1. It doesn't matter if it's the same skill repeated or a combo of skills, I very specifically am speaking of what the player is doing not the player character ingame is doing.

[Shurrikhan]

I am not.
Press 1-2-3 is inherently more fun than pressing 1-1-1. It doesn't matter if it's the same skill repeated or a combo of skills, I very specifically am speaking of what the player is doing not the player character ingame is doing.

Then we'll have to agree to disagree. I see nothing inherently fun about hitting a different button each step of the same decision.

I won't deny that there are probably others who would prefer that, say, Gnashing Fang, Savage Claw, Wicked Talon, Jugular Rip, Abdomen Tear, Eye Gouge, and Hypervelocity all took separate buttons, instead of just their current total of 2 keys. I just don't think you're anywhere near a majority and would rather not sacrifice actual complexity for a pretense thereof (our current unconsolidated combos).

Like Terin, I'd prefer real combos --that each skill in a given combo have real use, to be synergized meaningfully-- but if this is all we're getting from them, then I see no reason to force each player (or, each non-PC player) to waste that hotbar space or to hold back further job complexity just to keep room for our fake combos' fake complexity.

[Kolsykol]

I hope they never do this, the combat is very engaging as it is don't dumb it down.
Actually pressing a lot of buttons is part of what makes it fun for me and sets it apart from most other MMO's.

People can dumb down how they describe rotations all they want, the fact still remains that yes pressing 1 2 3 is harder than spamming 1 especially when you add other stuff on top of it too and have the whole package and yes at least imo it's way more engaging too.

Then we'll have to agree to disagree. I see nothing inherently fun about hitting a different button each step of the same decision.

I won't deny that there are probably others who would prefer that, say, Gnashing Fang, Savage Claw, Wicked Talon, Jugular Rip, Abdomen Tear, Eye Gouge, and Hypervelocity all took separate buttons, instead of just their current total of 2 keys. I just don't think you're anywhere near a majority and would rather not sacrifice actual complexity for a pretense thereof (our current unconsolidated combos).

Like Terin, I'd prefer real combos --that each skill in a given combo have real use, to be synergized meaningfully-- but if this is all we're getting from them, then I see no reason to force each player (or, each non-PC player) to waste that hotbar space or to hold back further job complexity just to keep room for our fake combos' fake complexity.

I wouldn't disagree that I'd like the combos to be more exciting.
But if it's between what we have now and turning it into like how it works in PvP then I'll take what we have now.
If we go with the premise however that they'd add more complexity to it then I might change my mind about it but I don't think that's really the premise of the thread.

[Knot_D]

I mean GNB Gnashing Fang combo already turned into 1 button, why not the rest? (Except MNK of course)

[Giyu]

I neither press 1-1-1 nor 1-2-3 since I use macro for combos
e.g.
1-0-0
0 means idle

[Duskane]

I don't mind it as a option
and putting the combo into 1 button isn't really comparable to healers
since DPS have loads of other buttons to press while healers its just 1 spell and a dot

[Acece]

I can see it maybe for ninja and reaper but I couldn't see it work for monk, sam, and maybe drg. It would suck to lose the flexible rotation of sam and monk, for drg idk I like pressing 8 part combo cause it makes my brain active and I would probably lose my place for positionals.

[Hysterior]

Play healer: One single button to push for each GCD and weave all the rest of your skills in between

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Thinking having different buttons to press for the 1-2-3 combo is what makes a class interesting or hard honestly says a lot about y'all.