Job action combos one button

[Fourbestintoner]

Play the jobs they like until they begin to ruin them by catering to people who shouldn't be even playing them, I will NEVER touch scholar and dark knight again.
Cleared week 1 btw.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Play the jobs they like until they begin to ruin them by catering to people who shouldn't be even playing them, I will NEVER touch scholar and dark knight again.
Cleared week 1 btw.

Glad to hear. If that is real, and we'll never know if it is.

You're still a tryhard that thinks having more buttons = being harder to play, and that's self-explanatory about what you know about quality class design.

[Fourbestintoner]

more buttons = being harder to play

Yes, that's exactly right

[DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise]

This is already possible but my lips are sealed

And I would be 0% surprised if a lot of top players are already doing it

[LittleImp]

I played PLD during week 1 clears this tier, and constantly had hardcore players openly criticizing my job choice in the final fight. If you spend time in hardcore communities, you will pretty frequently see top rank players equating playing certain jobs to griefing.

This meme was probably made by some weird casual player fantasizing about having something in common with hardcore players.

[Ilisidi]

This is already possible but my lips are sealed

And I would be 0% surprised if a lot of top players are already doing it

You don't need third party tools for that. Macros with action button swaps are perfectly doable in the game as is.
As such I'd like to have more macros, two hundred is not enough.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

I played PLD during week 1 clears this tier, and constantly had hardcore players openly criticizing my job choice in the final fight. If you spend time in hardcore communities, you will pretty frequently see top rank players equating playing certain jobs to griefing.

This meme was probably made by some weird casual player fantasizing about having something in common with hardcore players.

If you think you need to min max classes to kill week 1, you're just not good enough.

Being commited defines midcore, being good defines hardcore.

This was made by a multiple 100% parse NIN for two expansions that plays in a static that cleared P4S with a DNC and a SMN week 1, not by me. I'm just a casual that dwells around his hardcore gf, because I don't want to commit to PvE, but nah, you just mistake midcore tryhards for hardcore.

And the reason they don't care about classes is because the content is too easy right now to have to discriminate against some classes as long as you've got some top tier included. If a monk blames your choice to play PLD for the lack of DPS, he's just not good enough, and if you can't see that, you're just delusional. If you want to world first, or even do ultimate, sure, min max. But min maxing savage hard enough to exclude some jobs is the proof you're not a good enough player.

(Also, "you" defines the tryhards I'm speaking about, not you, Little Imp, I don't think you're bad or delusional, but certainly you know that this is stupid, since you play PLD in a meta that's against it)

[Equitable_Remedy]

Do people think that pressing 1-2-3 makes you more l33t than pressing 1-1-1?

It does not.

[DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise]

PLD damage is on par with warrior now btw

But the job still lacks a philosophy of use, or meta
Not as personally tanky as a warrior, has unnecessary group defense utility
And warriors shake it off is comically better than plod’s equiv so the job still feels a sense of WHY DID YOU CREATE ME GOD?!?

[LittleImp]

If you think you need to min max classes to kill week 1, you're just not good enough.

Being commited defines midcore, being good defines hardcore.

This was made by a multiple 100% parse NIN for two expansions that plays in a static that cleared P4S with a DNC and a SMN week 1, not by me. I'm just a casual that dwells around his hardcore gf, because I don't want to commit to PvE, but nah, you just mistake midcore tryhards for hardcore.

I know plenty of people who regularly achieve 100 percentiles and participate in the WF race that strongly believe in min-maxing job comp. Opinions in hardcore circles tend to be just as diverse as any other segment of the game, and emphasizing the meta doesn't necessarily indicate that someone is somehow an inferior player.

If you're trying to pug the final fight week 1, you're usually going to end up in groups with players of varied skill levels. When your ability to clear is suddenly tied to your ability to overperform and make up for someone else's deficit, job choice can really start to feel like it matters. It doesn't matter how skilled you are in those situations, there are absolutely cases where "if I was playing x job, I would have already cleared this fight" can be unfortunately valid.

I've been burned by people caring about the meta, and really really don't care for it myself, but this meme just kind of generalizes and mischaracterizes.