Job action combos one button

[Mikey_R]

Personally, I would like to see the combos put on one button and the newly empty slots filled with even more oGCD abilities. Or, if not that, uncomboed abilities like DRK's old dot.

As something to mention, alot of jobs (looking mainly at DPS here) already have alot of oGCDs to fit into every burst window, adding too many more would start to cause them to drift outside the burst window just because you have no more weave slots to use. Just something to keep in mind.

The Dev team also done away with most standalone DoTs since SB, Touch of Death, Mutilate, Fracture, Phlebotomise, Shadow Fang, Lead Shot, Scourge etc. So would it be wise to add them back in? especially since I can see alot of them just getting in the way with current jobs, Touch of Death on Monk could get in the way of Masterful Blitz, Mutilate/Shadow Fang, Ninja already has so much to fit into the TA window, I really do not think that adding another thing is going to help etc. Don't get me wrong, some additions would be nice, like Scourge back on DRK, but again, you also have to take into account whether it would mess up the job flow and just get in the way.

[AmpelioB]

I wouldn't mind

[Lilyth]

Why have combos to begin with if they're all gonna be the same button? Might as well just have a single spammable attack and that's it. Healers love it! /s

[Lunalepsy]

Do you think we will see the day where our rotation for combos will be just one button instead of 3-4? I think it would be a blessing and cut down on the hotbar bloat that we are getting for skills. What are your opinions on it?

I mean, the game is heading toward a single-player experience. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Jijifli]

I can already promise you, it'll actually make me play worse. Case and point: BRD. BRD is just 1 1 1 1 1 1, and sometimes you get that 2 proc, but it's not confirmed. What ends up happening when I play BRD? It takes me forever to realize I have said proc because I've pressed 1 so many times by this point that I've literally being numbed into it, there by not really having any stimulation to continue to 2 anymore.

I'm really not joking, and I know I'm not alone on that. I already absolutely hate the fact that BRD and all healers play a 1 button rotation style for 99% of their key presses. If you made that for every job, I would just be incapable of playing them because I just couldn't keep attention on anymore, which would mean I'd just end up not using those new off globals anyways which results in the point being completely gone for me.

If you're desperate enough to really need them, I'm pretty sure there's resources people have pointed out exist already, just it'd be ToS breaking (though, how will they know right?) but it'd solve all your wonderful problems. I'd rather stick to my usual method, that at least lets me keep the smallest of attention.

[Rongway]

They removed nearly every bloated action by now, everything we have and used in a rotational basis is useful... There's no bloat to cut anymore.

There are still a lot of actions that can be consolidated that aren't weaponskill combos.

• AST Draw + Redraw or Draw + Play
• AST Minor Arcana + Crown Play
• BLM Leylines + Between the Lines
• BLM Freeze + Flare
• BLM Blizzard IV + Fire IV
• BLM Despair + Umbral Soul
• BRD The Wanderer's Minuet + Pitch Perfect
• DNC Flourish + Fan Dance IV
• DNC Devilment + Starfall Dance
• DRG Jump + Mirage Dive
• PLD Sheltron + Intervention: Essentially same ability with different target
• MCH Hypercharge + Heat Blast
• MNK Perfect Balance + Masterful Blitz
• NIN Hide + Trick Attack
• PLD Requiescat + Confiteor
• RPR Arcane Circle + Plentiful Harvest
• RPR Enshroud + Communio
• SMN Summon Carbuncle + Radiant Aegis
• SMN Energy Drain + Ruin IV
• SMN Energy Siphon + Ruin IV
• WAR Inner Release + Primal Rend
• WAR Raw Intuition/Bloodwhetting + Nascent Flash: Essentially same ability with different target

Additionally, WHM would benefit from consolidating Cure II + Afflatus Solace and Medica + Afflatus Rapture, since Afflatus Solace and Afflatus Rapture are exactly just free+instant Cure II and free+instant Medica.

[Raikai]

There are still a lot of actions that can be consolidated that aren't weaponskill combos.

• AST Draw + Redraw or Draw + Play
• AST Minor Arcana + Crown Play
• BLM Leylines + Between the Lines
• BLM Freeze + Flare
• BLM Blizzard IV + Fire IV
• BLM Despair + Umbral Soul
• BRD The Wanderer's Minuet + Pitch Perfect
• DNC Flourish + Fan Dance IV
• DNC Devilment + Starfall Dance
• DRG Jump + Mirage Dive
• PLD Sheltron + Intervention: Essentially same ability with different target
• MCH Hypercharge + Heat Blast
• MNK Perfect Balance + Masterful Blitz
• NIN Hide + Trick Attack
• PLD Requiescat + Confiteor
• RPR Arcane Circle + Plentiful Harvest
• RPR Enshroud + Communio
• SMN Summon Carbuncle + Radiant Aegis
• SMN Energy Drain + Ruin IV
• SMN Energy Siphon + Ruin IV
• WAR Inner Release + Primal Rend
• WAR Raw Intuition/Bloodwhetting + Nascent Flash: Essentially same ability with different target

Additionally, WHM would benefit from consolidating Cure II + Afflatus Solace and Medica + Afflatus Rapture, since Afflatus Solace and Afflatus Rapture are exactly just free+instant Cure II and free+instant Medica.

Ah, I agree with the list! It makes sense, because isn't actually removing actions but condensing them in a similar way the combos would be as per the OP suggestion.

My statement was more akin to removing actions that won't add anything to the gameplay other than just a button to press with zero depth behind.

Edit: Summon Carbuncle... That is something that I don't consider bloat itself because technically you never have to press it unless you die, but damn I'd love to see that just turned into a cosmetic spell because it is annoying as heck to have the utility unavailable most of the time because there's another summon going on.

[TaleraRistain]

Additionally, WHM would benefit from consolidating Cure II + Afflatus Solace and Medica + Afflatus Rapture, since Afflatus Solace and Afflatus Rapture are exactly just free+instant Cure II and free+instant Medica.

That one wouldn't work because the Afflatus skills need lilies so you're hamstringing us when we're out of them.

[Acece]

That one wouldn't work because the Afflatus skills need lilies so you're hamstringing us when we're out of them.

It would be like if you have a lilly it would make medica/cure 2 instant rather then outright get rid of them. I made the suggestion a while back cause I would never use cure 2 or medica when I have a lilly.

[Rongway]

That one wouldn't work because the Afflatus skills need lilies so you're hamstringing us when we're out of them.

No, it would be like any action that changes to another action while under some effect. Just to pick something off the top of my head, when RDM has 20|20 gauge the action Moulinet upgrades to Enchanted Moulinet. WHM could easily be changed so that when you have one or more lilies, Cure II is upgraded to Afflatus Solace and Medica is upgraded to Afflatus Rapture.

Edit: Summon Carbuncle... That is something that I don't consider bloat itself because technically you never have to press it unless you die

...but in what way is that not bloat? There is a button on your bar, that you never press but once per life; and you have another button that you can use often but not at all until you first press that one button that you only press once and then never touch again. Why wouldn't you want to make the button that you press once and never touch again change into the other button that can't be used unless you've pressed it?

(Yes, I know, SMN already doesn't have many buttons; however, it can be true that SMN doesn't have very many buttons and simultaneously also they still have buttons that can be reasonably consolidated because one is locked behind the other.)