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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    The only difference being that most of them will be about RNG, rather than others being faster.
    There's your issue. The moment housing becomes available, the housing bots get RIGHT ON IT like moths to a flame. I've seen them straight teleport to the place right when it's been opened, and they've been able to snatch it up before any other player can get to it.

    While a housing rush was a natural thing since Shirogane opened up, I'm full support for the Lottery System that their team has made. The Lottery System also heavily taxes bots in the fact that it's at a major operating loss for the person handling his army of bots, so it helps make it that much harder for them to just steal the plot outright and try to sell it via RMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    There's your issue. The moment housing becomes available, the housing bots get RIGHT ON IT like moths to a flame. I've seen them straight teleport to the place right when it's been opened, and they've been able to snatch it up before any other player can get to it.

    While a housing rush was a natural thing since Shirogane opened up, I'm full support for the Lottery System that their team has made. The Lottery System also heavily taxes bots in the fact that it's at a major operating loss for the person handling his army of bots, so it helps make it that much harder for them to just steal the plot outright and try to sell it via RMT.
    Your post makes it sound like the system can only be FCFS or the lottery system. Meanwhile, Yoshi-P himself has stated that the team can customize each plot on what system is used to purchase it.
    As for the issue on housing bots, that's just something the players in favor of having a few FCFS housing wards will have to contend with. Meanwhile, the majority of the wards would still be using the lottery system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Your post makes it sound like the system can only be FCFS or the lottery system.
    I've seen this kind of behaviour on a lot of posts, especially some I made in the past. People can't seem to grasp that not everything is binary and completely miss the point entirely. That said I am completely in favour of not having FCFS come back. I was there when it was in Shirogane and trying to log in within 3 minutes of the servers coming up was a nightmare of lobby errors and long queues before I finally got in the game to only find 1 unclaimed house throughout the whole of my server, half the ones people in my FC had their eyes set on that were close to the FC house were snapped up by bots and were unoccupied for months. FCFS is only giving houses to bots and house flippers. There won't be any choice of FCFS and lottery for buyers when there are no houses on FCFS wards to buy as soon as the servers open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    I was there when it was in Shirogane and trying to log in within 3 minutes of the servers coming up was a nightmare of lobby errors and long queues before I finally got in the game .
    Ok, you were there with the new housing issues back in Stormblood. But I don’t hear you saying anything about the FCFS in 5.2 when 3 wards per city was open up.

    Either you already had a house and didn’t care, or you not talking about THERE WAS NO ISSUES, NO LONG IN QUEUE, NO SERVER ERRORS, EVERYTHING RAN CLEAN.

    SE learned from the issues in the past and made sure there were no issues when everything came up in 5.2.

    So now that it has been proven that there will be no issues, what are you going to bring up next? It isn’t like we are asking for 21 of the 24 wards to be FCFS, we are only asking for some wards…6 would be great, but we can live with 3 wards or 12.5% of the total of Ishgard housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenril7 View Post
    So now that it has been proven that there will be no issues, what are you going to bring up next?.
    When and how was this proven? Because from all I've read, the current system has been an issue for quite awhile... which is why the majority is asking for ALL wards to be lottery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyssa View Post
    When and how was this proven? Because from all I've read, the current system has been an issue for quite awhile.
    When and where? If you “READ” something that is still an issue, hopefully you can quote it so we can let SE know there is still an issue out there that needs fix. Could you please post what you read?

    The only issue that I am aware of is Bots and people clicking on all hours of the day and night to a buy a house. I haven’t heard or read of any log on/server issues. Besides the Endwalker release that had thousands of players wanting to log on at one time, there isn’t anything like those Stormblood issues of 4 1/2 years ago.

    Thank you!

    PS: Three wards of FCFS is not going to hurt anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenril7 View Post
    When and where? If you “READ” something that is still an issue, hopefully you can quote it so we can let SE know there is still an issue out there that needs fix. Could you please post what you read?

    The only issue that I am aware of is Bots and people clicking on all hours of the day and night to a buy a house. I haven’t heard or read of any log on/server issues. Besides the Endwalker release that had thousands of players wanting to log on at one time, there isn’t anything like those Stormblood issues of 4 1/2 years ago.

    Thank you!

    PS: Three wards of FCFS is not going to hurt anyone.

    You missed my question. Where is the proof that the current system has no issues? Where is that written and how was it proven, because if it was so successful and that was proven to be fact, why then is another system, totally different from what you claim has no issues, the one rolling out from the looks of it?

    There are numerous sources entailing this issue- feel free to Google "FF14 housing crisis/issue/shortage/savage" and reap the results. Reddit, various gaming sites, gaming news articles, Discord server groups all regale the horrors of the current housing system. Heck the front page of this forum is filled with complaints about the FAILURES of the current system.

    SE is well aware of the issues. SE has commented on them, made changes recently to relocation and has stated that they think the lottery is the way to proceed. Clearly, they've read the same feedback I and others have and agreed that it's time for a change.


    *edit- Here is a link you should find useful. The best part is, it's in this forum and is a conversation you were directly involved in. Reading is fun.
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    Last edited by Kyssa; 03-09-2022 at 06:18 PM. Reason: Links are cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenril7 View Post
    PS: Three wards of FCFS is not going to hurt anyone.
    24 wards should be split 12 and 12. We'll find out soon enough what they have planned I support the split.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    I've seen this kind of behaviour on a lot of posts, especially some I made in the past. People can't seem to grasp that not everything is binary and completely miss the point entirely. That said I am completely in favour of not having FCFS come back. I was there when it was in Shirogane and trying to log in within 3 minutes of the servers coming up was a nightmare of lobby errors and long queues before I finally got in the game to only find 1 unclaimed house throughout the whole of my server, half the ones people in my FC had their eyes set on that were close to the FC house were snapped up by bots and were unoccupied for months. FCFS is only giving houses to bots and house flippers. There won't be any choice of FCFS and lottery for buyers when there are no houses on FCFS wards to buy as soon as the servers open.
    It is binary, there are a finite number of houses and there are nowhere near enough for everyone who wants one. Any wards split up into FCFS to cater to people who specifically want that system are wards and houses not available to the Lottery system. It's not advocating for FCFS in addition, it's asking for wards to be removed from the more fair lottery system so that a few people can have a better shot at getting a house personally.
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