Content Idea:BCNM

[kaynide]

Going along with other ideas for resource sinks, I’d like to propose BCNMs! Iscah’s gilsink inspired me…

What is a BCNM?
From FFXI, “Burning Circle Notorious Monster”, but really it is a trial that is accessed by spending an item to enter with your party. It is a single complex fight with gimmicks, and that you can choose specifically which fight you want.

In FF14 terms, entry is similar to 14’s treasure hunt and the actual trial is more in line with blue mage’s arena fights (gimmicks) or really any 8 man trial.

What’s the point?
They offer bite sized harder content; not meant to be 100% clearable without any real need of storyline or chain of trials like savage. You could focus on one at a time with friends easily as you like.

Since it costs resources for each attempt, you give meaning to excess tomestones/company seals.

How would I do it?

I wouldn’t have entry keys available for straight gil, rather use poetics and grand company seals (different tiers of key for different trials)

I wouldn’t have them introduce any new mechanics or models. Just recycle content, mixing existing monster abilities. on par with the Eureka/Bozja boss fates.

I would make it punishing, like the debuff you get for making a mistake never goes away; 2 or 3 mistakes and dead, etc.

I’d also have lots of gimmicky ones, where you have to figure it out (like blue mage)

What would you get?
In line with Treasure Hunt maps; just a variety of stuff, with general rewards for any, plus specific things available from specific BCNMs.

That’s it!

[Azuri]

So you are saying we should have difficult content with a 1-use entry fee that is lost if you fail to clear because little Jimmy was sniffing glue with 50% GCD uptime?

This will go great.

[Xaphire]

So you are saying we should have difficult content with a 1-use entry fee that is lost if you fail to clear because little Jimmy was sniffing glue with 50% GCD uptime?

This will go great.

So, if something like this were to be implemented and it were anything like XI - you wouldn't be doing this with random players. You'd likely form a group for it and as it would be small I imagine you could fill it with people you know aren't glue-sniffers or window-lickers.

[Azuri]

So, if something like this were to be implemented and it were anything like XI - you wouldn't be doing this with random players. You'd likely form a group for it and as it would be small I imagine you could fill it with people you know aren't glue-sniffers or window-lickers.

Look, I despise the "bUt tHiS iS nOT wOw" argument but this idea takes the worst part of Mythic+ and puts it in XIV. You would literally create content where you'll be hard denied from joining without good parses.

[Xaphire]

Look, I despise the "bUt tHiS iS nOT wOw" argument but this idea takes the worst part of Mythic+ and puts it in XIV. You would literally create content where you'll be hard denied from joining without good parses.

...make friends? Do you not know 3-7 other people? (I liked BCNMs in XI, and it sounds like a fun idea).

[Divinemights]

So, if something like this were to be implemented and it were anything like XI - you wouldn't be doing this with random players. You'd likely form a group for it and as it would be small I imagine you could fill it with people you know aren't glue-sniffers or window-lickers.

Too bad for you, but it works really nicely in FF11
It is not going to be a content for everyone but it is going to be a piece of content for people who likes team play

[Xaphire]

Too bad for you, but it works really nicely in FF11
It is not going to be a content for everyone but it is going to be a piece of content for people who likes team play

Hah? I was saying it wouldn't be duty finder content. You'd make a group for it either via PF or with friends. I should have quoted the post before mine saying it wouldn't be good because someone making a mistake due to 'glue-sniffing' would cause a wipe.

I played a lot of FFXI during Rise of the Zilart and Chains of Promathia. I really liked BCNMs.

[Kes13a]

Too bad for you, but it works really nicely in FF11
It is not going to be a content for everyone but it is going to be a piece of content for people who likes team play

if people liked "team play" they wouldnt be going all in on buffing things with Alphinaud and crew...

[Jojoya]

Doesn't sound like my cup of tea but I'm sure there are others who would enjoy it.

So you are saying we should have difficult content with a 1-use entry fee that is lost if you fail to clear because little Jimmy was sniffing glue with 50% GCD uptime?

This will go great.

Don't queue with Little Jimmy. Queue with players you know and trust. Problem solved.

Look, I despise the "bUt tHiS iS nOT wOw" argument but this idea takes the worst part of Mythic+ and puts it in XIV. You would literally create content where you'll be hard denied from joining without good parses.

If the rewards were on par with treasure map rewards, there would be no pressure to do the content.

Why object to something optional that probably would require a relatively small amount of development time to create since it would be relying on things already in the game?

if people liked "team play" they wouldnt be going all in on buffing things with Alphinaud and crew...

Except many players do like team play and so SE continues to produce group content. If people hated team play as much as you imply, they'd stop making EX/Savage/Ultimate/PvP/etc. and be making all duties solo duties going forward. They're not doing that.

The upcoming changes aren't a replacement for group content (outside of Cape Westwind and the Lahabrea fight). They're an alternate way for those not comfortable with group content to experience it.

Both can co-exist. SE could possibly even take the OP's idea and make it scaling like they're doing with the Criterion Dungeons so players can do it solo or with friends as they like.