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  1. #31
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    Little-bunny's Avatar
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    Little Foofoo
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 73
    I agree. There are times when prices on my world are ridiculous and they are cheaper on other worlds. I try to be frugal with my gil. I'm not going to pay a ridiculous price for something on my home world.
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  2. #32
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Little-bunny View Post
    I agree. There are times when prices on my world are ridiculous and they are cheaper on other worlds. I try to be frugal with my gil. I'm not going to pay a ridiculous price for something on my home world.
    Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on perspective), not everyone thinks the same way.

    I have an example from yesterday. I was checking the price on an item I sell occasionally when I can get a needed material to craft it and it was up in the 1.7-2 million range on Coeurl. I'm thinking that can't be right, it was about 750k the last time I sold it 2-3 weeks ago. Sales history did show 1 recent sale at 1.4 million but otherwise it had been 750k or less. Decided to make use of world visit and data center travel to see what the fair market rate was but tossed it up at 1.5 million as a placeholder until I got back.

    Look around, price for the item on most Crystal worlds was about 900k and 900k-1 million on Aether and Primal (other than a few high priced outliers). Went back to Coeurl to drop the price down to 1 million and... it had already sold at 1.5 million.

    I guess some find the convenience of not needing to world hop worth it. That's why things can end up selling at the outrageous prices we sometimes see.

    Definitely there's room to profit for those willing to take some time to look for bargains.
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  3. #33
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    Little-bunny's Avatar
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    Little Foofoo
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 73
    Would something like https://universalis.app be of use to you?
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  4. #34
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    I mostly avoid apps and related stuff (other than hunt/FATE trackers). Takes part of the fun out of it for me. Thanks for the suggestion, though. I'm sure others will be interested.
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  5. #35
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    Easley Lighthalzen
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    It's just supply and demand. I crash prices all the time because I want to liquidate fast, buy more materials and circulate my gil for max profit/time.

    eg. I released over 100 Susano weapons essentially crashing it on Aether when it was released. I made a ton of gil because they sold fast and I had gil to buy more materials etc. Eventually, prices stabilise.

    Restricting cross-DC market usage just because you want to sell high seems selfish.
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  6. #36
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    mR_iOuS's Avatar
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    Mister Ious
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Prrringles View Post
    Sometimes you just have to pick the lesser evil. Your scenario will seldom happen whereas the rmt/reseller scenario happens very often. Plus they could make and exception for stackable items/crafting materials. Those are not the items being resold in the first place anyway.
    True, but if they're coming from a server where it's super cheap to get the mats, THEN move over and craft, they could easily price you out of your own market because you are in fact trapped. In a box. The walls closing in. Your very existence and reality shrinking around you. And the only recourse is to shuffle off from this immortal coil and find a new market and hope they didn't load up on mats for other things as well, lol.

    But honestly, as someone who's been at this gig over 3 years at this point, the way it is now is our only saving grace. Because they always find a way, and they will try to beat you down and force you out. And if you can't migrate your own goods elsewhere and try to still make a decent sale, you're out of luck Chuck. And then once you're out they jack the price. Seen it more then once. Some have also utilized Dynamis to come over because it's free to move to a new world and reap madness that way.

    I got roped in to all of this early on because someone decided to just tank my stuff and scoop it up and sell it elsewhere, so I quickly forced a bunch of alts in to my DC so I would stop getting pecked to death. Fast forward almost 2 years and the JA player appears acting like they're doing something new, lol. But this time, because of cross world travel, I was getting pecked from multiple angles with no recourse or able to stave it off. And there was no sign of it stopping either. So I then had to force a bunch of alts in to the other DCs and it stopped because I was forced to pretty much homogenize the markets in order to 'make it so'.

    I'm glad I did because this seller shows no signs of ever leaving. Regardless of whatever one may think about how it would 'help', remember, this was already a thing long before the cross-world travel. If anything they unlocked the cage. Yea it could benefit them, but with how they run, I'm sure they don't even need cross-travel to do what they do, but allowing it levels the playing field for the casual seller. I would suggest leveling alts elsewhere and utilize your mannequins, or a friend, to move it if needed. It honestly only takes 5-6 hrs tops to go from level 1 to Retainers. About a day, day and a half if you want to go the extra mile and go to 50 and get an apt for mannys. Adventurer in need for extra seals to boost the GC to the point of Expert Deliveries. If you're selling high priced weapons/glams the cost pays for itself quickly from the gil you save on taxes alone. Plus, it's another room to decorate!

    Any solution that we might think will work they will just adapt to as they always have and we'll just be chopping off our own noses to spite our own faces.
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  7. #37
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    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Higher prices benefit crafters though, especially if you have the means to raw mats via gatherers or hunter retainers.
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    WHM / BLM / SMN / NIN/ DNC / Omnicrafter and Gatherer

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