How is anyone fine with the 4-month patch delivery schedule?

[MintnHoney]

Your entire argument is based solely on your own personal preferences.

No, actually, my "entire argument" is based upon a vague sense of whether or not it's fair to question whether or not more could be done to give more to do for the players, rather than any sense of personal preference. Once more, you're aiming your argument against something that isn't there, and it would be nice if you could stop assuming things just because you want me to be wrong.

dont pretend like this game is lacking in content to do because it clearly does not.

Crafting and gather certainly are things that one can do forever, if they want. Certainly there will be plenty of people looking for furniture when the housing lottery is fixed.
Bozja and Eureka are good examples of activities with horizontal progression using a separate vertical progression system. They're good, and they last a hell of a lot longer than the general patch items like dungeons, story stuff, or even raids.
But other than that? Everything else in this game individually loses its luster quickly because of the nature of this game's design. You can argue that FFXIV has lots of little individual things to do, and you would be right. I, however, will not agree that every little individual thing is something that can be done to keep one's interest from fading, nor would I agree that all those individual items substantiate a sub for every person.
You seem to be under the impression that, because there's "something for everyone," that means everyone should be satisfied and there's no reason to feel like the content could be altered, improved, or reviewed because there is an abundance of it if only one could just abandon their preferences. However, I argue that the very fact that they decided to try and implement things like Criterion Dungeons (assuming that they end up making what I'm thinking they're making out of them) and the Island Sanctuary (which we still know almost nothing about) means that even they are aware that there needs to be something in place for everyone at every level that can keep interest for at least a little longer than the basic patch items and whatever backlog of items they were never interested in in the first place.
And with the slightly longer patch cycles, it's going to be more important than ever that they implement something for each type of player, at each level group, that they can satiate themselves with over time. With any luck, Criterion Dungeons will be just that. If not, then, well, I won't be doing the shocked pikachu face if I see people complaining about not having anything to do, and I'm not going to tell them to go do something else because I'm not in the business of making other people change their minds about what they want to do.

I wish they had a system like daily sub system instead of monthly sub..
If Yoshi P. really honest with their suggestion, "go play other games" a daily subscription (24 hour / 1 USD) will be great :3

I am sure I am not only one who logins weekly just for 1-4 hour progression.. and play something else when it is done..
Also benefits people who don't want to lose their home..

That would be incredible, actually, but I'm not sure how feasible it would be for a business.
Plus, how do they work in the price of the additional retainers, etc?

[Insertusernamehere]

That would be incredible, actually, but I'm not sure how feasible it would be for a business.
Plus, how do they work in the price of the additional retainers, etc?

I guess they have no choice but freeze additional retainers.

[Pells]

Hyperbole.

I disagree. It is a slippery slope argument.

[Thorio]

I wish they had a system like daily sub system instead of monthly sub..
If Yoshi P. really honest with their suggestion, "go play other games" a daily subscription (24 hour / 1 USD) will be great :3

I am sure I am not only one who logins weekly just for 1-4 hour progression.. and play something else when it is done..
Also benefits people who don't want to lose their home..

That's a pretty bad idea honestly, daily subs just don't work.

[SturmChurro]

News flash, a person can play more than one game at a time. For that matter, if I did only want to play one game, what gives ANYONE the right to tell me it's "unhealthy" to do so. You don't know me.

I'd say how I play the game is very "healthy", anyway. On any given day that I am actively playing the game, yes I might have the game open all day, but I'm not always sitting at my desk all day. I am not just playing the game all day, I am just logged into the game. In actuality I play these games fairly sparingly. So please don't ANYONE lecture me on what is "healthy" or not. EVEN IF someone is sitting at their desk all day, playing the game all day, that is their prerogative. I am not going to go and tell them how to live their life, and speaking of this, in my suggestion, again, I made a point to speak against predatory retention practices.

[hagare]

because of this
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...o-much-content

[DPZ2]

That's a pretty bad idea honestly, daily subs just don't work.

Are you sure about that? I am under the impression that China and Korea have payment plans suitable for Internet cafe users. I remember reading about 5 hour/30 hour game time as well as 30 day/90 day subscriptions.

Perhaps it wouldn't work well in Europe or North America, but as for the rest of the world ...

[ForteNightshade]

That's the case for any game though.

I have the platinum in Elden ring. 96 hours. No new content.

Lost Ark, which just released, has people on its forums complaining about lack of communication in terms of patch releases, content droughts, etc.

That is a disingenuous comparison. Elden Ring isn't asking for a monthly sub alongside its retail price. There isn't ever an expectation of more content unless DLC is made, which is also a one time cost.

Even Lost Ark is a F2P MMO, thus the expectation of content is different.

You could start progging ultimate, then?

I have every single Ultimate weapon and am currently progging DRU. So...

My point, is for those who either can't do Ultimate or don't want to invest the sheer amount of hours necessary for something of that difficult scale, 6.1 has very little to offer over a four month span. Ultimate isn't something you just do because it's new content.

And? Its still content, and a hell of a lot more than pretty much any other MMO out there. Its not the devs faults MMO players consume content at a stupid pace. You're expecting way too much from developers. Its amazing they can even do as much as they do in a 4 month time table.

This argument really needs to stop. It's complete nonsense in the context we're debating. With the exception of Ultimate for reasons stated above, the bulk of 6.1's content could be completed within a single week at a slow pace. Nobody has to "consume content at a stupid space." There isn't enough to consume. What are we supposed to do? Pick one side story quest chain a week just to artificially stretch out the patch? 6.1 is nearly three weeks old now and I've done everything it has to offer except spam Endsinger a billion times for her mount. I have cleared her several plenty. No such luck on the mount though. In 6.15, we're getting a handful of one and down story chains. So what exactly am I rushing here?

[Akamadoshi]

You are a member since last year. So I will explain a little. This is normal to us. Also, remember this game is Japan based. People work not just 6-8 hours, but many also overtime. Also, many members, and I personally met many myself in game, are 14-16 year old students, this grants them to take their time in content. So, I think this is fine as it..is normal... I am happy this way. The two weeks extra is for the devs own health. I find it a bit selfish to ask for more, they already put all the money from the store into the content and listen to what people wish as best as possible. (sometimes it takes time) also, their patches are bigger and bigger, they would burn themselves out if they do more, this would be the end of FFXIV. I hope this answers. I know you do not intend to become off as selfish, but I wished to express it that way as it may be people forget the reality of how it is. For others sake as well.

[Adeacia]

It can take weeks to make content that players can finish in an hour. It's not possible to make content fast enough to not be finished before the next patch.