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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    For now, Demolition is on hold, yes. But when it isn't..?
    I also wouldn't rely on the email service from a company who only discovered the joy of shopping carts, for their eshop, in recent years.
    You can just do what I did. I stopped my sub for a month (back when money was tight), went into the house on the last day before the sub ended, waited 40 days, then resubbed and re-entered the house to turn off auto-demolition.
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    You can just do what I did. I stopped my sub for a month (back when money was tight), went into the house on the last day before the sub ended, waited 40 days, then resubbed and re-entered the house to turn off auto-demolition.
    That's a start, but the question is why someone should have to do that in the first place, especially when it was promised, originally, that this sort of thing would not be an issue?
    But that's just one of the many issues with housing (especially these days) that really should be addressed and spoken of by a dev directly. It's only a part of the larger issue to be discussed, which is that most of XIV's content doesn't necessarily have the necessary staying power even if it is well-liked.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    That's a start, but the question is why someone should have to do that in the first place, especially when it was promised, originally, that this sort of thing would not be an issue?
    But that's just one of the many issues with housing (especially these days) that really should be addressed and spoken of by a dev directly. It's only a part of the larger issue to be discussed, which is that most of XIV's content doesn't necessarily have the necessary staying power even if it is well-liked.
    Because the original intent was for housing to be for FC's only since FC leadership can be passed around. It was never intended for personal use, but that can of worms got opened and they had to add in a stipulation to remove homes from inactive players in order to make plots available.
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    You do realize for every person complaining and voicing their opinions on the the forums there are many in game happily playing, right?
    Additionally, not everyone complaining on here even wants the same changes.
    You realize some people complaining and voicing there opinions are in game happily playing? You realize there are a HUGE amount people that never voiced an opinion and quit the game because they thought it sucked. You can easily see this by the number of accounts vs the number of active players. The assumption that because you have a complaint or voice an opinion you hate the game is a skewed view. And the assumption that you see players online that are happy that everyone is happy is just as skewed. Not everyone plays for the same reason, not every one wants to RP and create there own content

    I think the game has ALOT of problems that it has created over the past two expansions with job design, and I have thought the game has lacked content since SB. I don't hate the game, I just think a lot of aspects of it suck and could improve. Telling people to unsub for having an opinion that may be negative is childish and unconstructive. Quoting Yoshi P for a piss poor answer to a question about lack of content is a poor answer as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Because the original intent was for housing to be for FC's only since FC leadership can be passed around. It was never intended for personal use, but that can of worms got opened and they had to add in a stipulation to remove homes from inactive players in order to make plots available.
    Yup, if they just left it for FCs only we wouldn't have nearly the issues we have now with housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Yup, if they just left it for FCs only we wouldn't have nearly the issues we have now with housing.
    While it may slightly decrease the number of issues we are currently having with the housing situation, I think we would still have a mountain of problems that exist due to the original desire for there to be the housing wards. I'm sure that there are thousands of FCs that would love to have a house, but due to how the housing wards are - even if they were FC only - we would likely still be short a couple thousand, if not hundred thousand, plots.
    One way they can really rectify this is to make some sort of instanced housing that is within the cities themselves(like a door that is currently not used leading to a "residential street" that has a few NPCs wandering about, and the person's house there). But that is only one potential way out of many to fix the shortage problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Telling people to unsub for having an opinion that may be negative is childish and unconstructive.
    Unfortunately that is all they're doing now. There are some particularly insane ones like these:

    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    You are complaining about the work of others but don't want to be attacked in turn?

    You make me laugh, i love watching bullies get the karma sowed for their unasked for opinions when launched at the very same fan base of said game.

    Share your opinion but expect the same rebuttals when you do, don't want it? Choose silence then.
    To some of these people criticizing the game is literally equivalent to bullying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    You realize some people complaining and voicing there opinions are in game happily playing? You realize there are a HUGE amount people that never voiced an opinion and quit the game because they thought it sucked. You can easily see this by the number of accounts vs the number of active players. The assumption that because you have a complaint or voice an opinion you hate the game is a skewed view. And the assumption that you see players online that are happy that everyone is happy is just as skewed. Not everyone plays for the same reason, not every one wants to RP and create there own content

    I think the game has ALOT of problems that it has created over the past two expansions with job design, and I have thought the game has lacked content since SB. I don't hate the game, I just think a lot of aspects of it suck and could improve. Telling people to unsub for having an opinion that may be negative is childish and unconstructive. Quoting Yoshi P for a piss poor answer to a question about lack of content is a poor answer as well.



    Yup, if they just left it for FCs only we wouldn't have nearly the issues we have now with housing.
    My question for you is, what exactly do you want in game? More of what, crafting, gathering, Golden Saucer, or is it just more ultimate and savage content, which a small minority of the players interact with anyway. Usually when people complain about a lack of content it is only the specific content they want to do that they find lacking, not everything that is offered. Unless they start adding things that are ridiculous grinds, such as log in every day and collect one of these items to proceed or forever miss out on gear, there will always be down time where people have completed what they want and are waiting for the next thing.
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    or is it just more ultimate and savage content, which a small minority of the players interact with anyway.
    This is just a NA/EU thing, and you play on the server with the highest savage completion in NA at 22%. JP's lowest completion rate server is 22% and there highest is 46%. So when you really look at it, NA/EU is just the minority to savage but a very large number of players participate, and complete savage. As keep in mind those percentages, are based on completion, which is the players that have both the pet from normal, and the mount from savage so these numbers are smaller than actual completion. It also does not even include participation those that have not finished savage. Just because you don't participate does not mean the minority of players participate. I would probably recommend to you maybe transferring to crystal DC, they don't do much savage content and prefer to RP, you may fit in better there.

    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Usually when people complain about a lack of content it is only the specific content they want to do that they find lacking, not everything that is offered.
    I think it is about everything that is lacking TBH, crafting / gathering isn't really all that important outside of raid patches. Fishing is a fun side mini game but serves no purpose beyond a collectathon or an occasional useful mat. Most recent things added to Golden Saucer was Maujong and Lord of Vermillion the two most popular and requested games... 1 - 2 Ultimates per expansion is decent for the number of players that participate, I would say 12 savage bosses is not for the number of players that participate so I would like this content expanded. Also do something more with fates, and the actual world give players a reason to go back to zones other than because the MSQ told you to.

    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    d. Unless they start adding things that are ridiculous grinds, such as log in every day and collect one of these items to proceed or forever miss out on gear, there will always be down time where people have completed what they want and are waiting for the next thing.
    You mean like the yearly events that you can forever miss out on? Logging in daily to collect one of these items, this already exists with daily roullettes or beast tribe quests. No putting a grind into the game does not mean that people will miss out on items, maybe you should try doing a relic quest, it's a grind, and you can do any of them at any time as long as you meet the level requirement. Perhaps introducing these in a earlier patch as it used to be would give players something more to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Because the original intent was for housing to be for FC's only since FC leadership can be passed around. It was never intended for personal use, but that can of worms got opened and they had to add in a stipulation to remove homes from inactive players in order to make plots available.
    Meanwhile, FC estates are also at risk with the implemented system, and they failed to put any restrictions on ownership until after the the demand rose above the supply (and they had a good while to do that, too). They've already proven that they can flag the different ownerships differently from each other, and the spaghetti code doesn't seem to be getting in the way of them being able to implement restrictions or update player flag data on a system they put in, so why are both at risk if it's only personal homes that were never intended and are, therefore, the problem? Furthermore, that ultimately wouldn't have solved anything with housing, because anyone could make an FC and meet the requirements to have a house, especially for what they were at the time (I haven't checked, but they may have updated it since the initial "get your FC to rank 6" singular rule).

    But again, this is only a small piece of the whole issue.
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    *snip for relevance*
    (I haven't checked, but they may have updated it since the initial "get your FC to rank 6" singular rule).
    Just did a quick google search, and this is what came up for requirements.

    Entering as a Free Company Representative:
    Your free company must be rank 6 or above.
    Your free company must have four or more members.
    You must be authorized by your free company to purchase and relinquish land.
    You must have been a member of your free company for 30 days or longer. (*)
    Apr 21, 2022
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