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  1. #111
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    Voidedge_Ragna's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Edge Void
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I just wish they get their time sink stuff out earlier, Eureka as much as you hate it was dished out in 4.25 in ShB ... Bozja was 5.35. Its strange to me why the relic grind gets moved back so far.

    Anima weapon was 3.15 and Relic 2.0 (i believe). give us stretched out quests instead of pushing them all onto of each other. When the 24man raid coins are giving you the upgrade item for the weapons 5.15(?) it should give the quest to get the relic weapon the same level as the raid tier, at this point the raiders are done with the tier anyway. But looking at the trend we will now get the Relic quest at 6.4 with 2 stages.

    The ShB weapon was good for a SINGLE raid tier and even then the ilv did not line up and it was overshadowed till the final step. Relic grind and the additional Maps like Eureka and Bozja or Deep Dungeon (to an extend) are huge time sinks, they get out way to late and then cut them short however.

    Bozja defiantly has a cut 3rd zone the entire main plot is resolved in field notes ... show, dont tell.
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  2. #112
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    Coratanni's Avatar
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Very few people actually finish the longer grinds. I have yet to run out of things to do.
    I think most people who claim there's nothing to do actually mean there's nothing to do that specifically interests them.
    Well they are free to play other games while they wait for more content. There's so much to do in this game, it's mind-boggling. You can't please everyone. And you can't please everyone all the time.
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  3. #113
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I am fine with it. Because my "endgame" is clubbing, chatting and leveling alts.


    Cheers
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  4. #114
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    Juun's Avatar
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    Aimi Yume
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Im good, playing Elden Ring right now Im glad the game gives me free time to do other things. Its refreshing to have a developer respecting my time.
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  5. #115
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    Asrun's Avatar
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    Lalator Amorini
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    Moogle
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I really don’t understand why are you so understanding and forgiving towards the devs.
    Sure they need time to breathe, but they are still paid for their work and more people can be hired to keep things going on.

    Maybe 2 weeks it’s not a big deal in general, but still I see them talking about releasing the very same contents, or less of it, slower while we continue to have to pay a subscription.
    No, I don't think that "letting us unsubscribe" is equal to respecting our time. Give me fine contents on a decent schedule instead, and let me decide if am willing to pay the subscription or drop it to play something else instead.

    I also play to other MMO and online games and FFXIV it’s the only one requiring me to pay a monthly subscription and, sadly, it is one the games I play that receive less frequent and less engaging updates.

    Do we really wanna talk about the contents that they are going to delivering to us, now at new and slower rate?

    Dungeons over the time have become all the same to the point I can’t distinguish them. They are fancy corridors to run forward to meet 3-4 packs of monsters followed by a boss, then repeat till the end.
    Unpopular opinion: I much preferred 2.0 dungeons. They had exploration, interactions, puzzles and bosses that require other than dps and dodging aoes.

    The same can be said regarding raids. I can’t even tell the difference between raids and trials anymore. It’s all fighting a boss in an arena, just dodging fancy and fancier aoes.

    What about the 24man Alliance raids? They are almost pointless nowadays. The mechanics that require us to split in 3 parties (or actually doing something other than killing monsters) are so rare and often meaningless. Every time I run Rabanastre sewer section i think: was all time and effort spent for making this magnificent area just for us to slip down in 3 parties without having to do anything, not even a single click? Where is the gameplay?

    Now they are giving us trusts for old dungeons, a nice add, but they are doing this just to have a new selling point to attract new customers. That content is not for us already paying warriors of light/darkness.

    Of course they are also giving us new side quests, pvp, relic weapons, beast tribes, trials, ultimate and all of these will be just a small variation of the same old contents that we already had before. Maybe just criterion dungeons will be something new, I hope.

    In the last 2 years they made a lot of money with FF14 they could have used that money for turning back to a 3 months patch schedule, like it was during a realm reborn.
    Instead they are planning a much needed graphical update, that is coming late for sure (I am looking to you, low resolution textures). And this update seems tailored to be not really substantial, it will be the more convenient for them to make.

    Meanwhile, they are slowly delivering us copycats contents because why not?
    The community is so kind, forgiving and most of all willing to pay for toned down content delivered in a 4 month patch delivery schedule…
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    Last edited by Asrun; 03-02-2022 at 11:10 PM.

  6. #116
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    Skiros's Avatar
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    Drake Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Asrun View Post
    In the last 2 years they made a lot of money with FF14 they could have used that money for turning back to a 3 months patch schedule, like it was during a realm reborn.
    Instead they are planning a graphical update, that is coming late for sure (I am looking to you, low resolution textures). And this update seems tailored to be not really substantial, it will be the more convenient for them to make.

    Meanwhile, they are slowly delivering us copycats contents because why not?
    The community is so kind, forgiving and most of all willing to pay for toned down content delivered in a 4 month patch delivery schedule…
    100% agreed!
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  7. #117
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    Fayt1203's Avatar
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    A'shtola Rhul
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Funny how how some people think they know the financial status of a company they don't work for. very sad that
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    The seas continue to rise while the lesser moon continues to fall, and ilm by ilm, the world becomes ever more unlike itself, without the illumination of knowledge, we but vainly flail as specters in the dark.

  8. #118
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    DPZ2's Avatar
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Asrun View Post
    Maybe 2 weeks it’s not a big deal in general, but still I see them talking about releasing the very same contents, or less of it, slower while we continue to have to pay a subscription.
    No, I don't think that "letting us unsubscribe" is equal to respecting our time. Give me fine contents on a decent schedule instead, and let me decide if am willing to pay the subscription or drop it to play something else instead.
    If you are so upset about the schedule and content of this game, why do you still subscribe?

    I find the attitude "give me fine contents on a decent schedule instead..." puzzling. I've let my subscription to any number of MMOs lapse for lack of content I enjoy. For me, this game isn't one of those. Since one cannot post on the forums without an active game account, there must be something you get out of this game that makes it worth the subscription.

    Perhaps I've been playing MMOs longer than the naysayers here? There were no free-to-play MMOs back when I started shared world gaming in the mid-80s, nor in the 90s, nor in the 20-oughts. (Well, there might have been a few in the 20-oughts, but I don't remember any of their names). You either enjoyed the game for what it was, or you moved on.

    There is now an entire sub-genre of MMOs that don't require a subscription. And I find a lot of people willingly play those games. I try those out now and then, and generally don't stick with them because almost all of them have some part of their PvE environment tied up in PvP. (All too well do I remember that level 70 Horde player who visited Darkshore daily back in 2008, decimating every NPC ... it was not the highlight of my day.)

    Their story lines are brand new. Their combat system is most often action-based, and the majority of them started their life on the Western Pacific Rim. No subscription required, but also no 'glamour' and very little 'RP'. Linear story line, linear maps, gear progression not necessarily tied to group content. Plenty of 'minimal' rewards simply for logging in each day.

    Is this the content you think we're missing out on?
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  9. #119
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    Zachia's Avatar
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    Lazarus Zenebe
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    Mateus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fayt1203 View Post
    Funny how how some people think they know the financial status of a company they don't work for. very sad that
    I believe Yoshi-P even said that they have a lot of technical difficulties due to a lack of programmers in japan. Yes there is a lot of programmers in the west but you will have to learn japanese and move to Japan to work / live there. Not many are willing. Plus with pandemics, global economy collapse, and potential war (north korea is launching missles at japan) well as the saying goes "sh** happens". So if you aren't happy no one is forcing anyone to be here but that lalafell seems to know whats best.
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    For the Horde! I mean.... For Ul'dah!

  10. #120
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    Miiu's Avatar
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    Shila Lail
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Asrun View Post
    In the last 2 years they made a lot of money with FF14 they could have used that money for turning back to a 3 months patch schedule, like it was during a realm reborn.
    Instead they are planning a much needed graphical update, that is coming late for sure (I am looking to you, low resolution textures). And this update seems tailored to be not really substantial, it will be the more convenient for them to make.
    Just want to chime in here and say that yes the patch schedule during realm reborn was mostly adherent to 3 month. During heavensward patches were released around every 4 months. So we're already kinda used to that patch schedule anyways.
    Additionally if you check the quality of the content that is being added has been steadily rising. And yes I am also including more cinematic camera angles/camera movement/custom cutscene animations in this statement as well.

    The only thing that has really changed here is them officially saying: We're moving the official deadline of around 3 months (which was barely kept after heavensward release) to 4 months instead. So basically the same pace patches came out anyways.
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