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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I think they need better filler. If this means having better rewards for mogtomes. Or adjusting current/past content that players want to do it more. Maybe if PoTD was tweaked more people would try to solo it. If the end of Eureka was more casual friendly more people would hang out. Same with Bozja. I have done Eureka and maybe changing the way NM spawn and keeping the zone up permanently. I could pop in farm charges for an item and the NM can be spawned every 15 mins or so. Also up the zones to 90.



    I think some stuff could probably be done fairly easy. While some stuff would probably take a bit of work. Data centre travel isn't helping keep the game alive. Crystal has gone from lots of casual groups/people to only a few. I could kill lots of time helping people clear older raids, extremes, TT cards, mounts, blue spells, or just needing a random dungeon run. Now it is pretty barren.
    Ohh, the PoTD and Eureka/Bozja changes I would love so much. I'm too casual for that stuff most of the time even though I'm somewhat interested in it. That would be neat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I think they need better filler. If this means having better rewards for mogtomes. Or adjusting current/past content that players want to do it more. Maybe if PoTD was tweaked more people would try to solo it. If the end of Eureka was more casual friendly more people would hang out. Same with Bozja. I have done Eureka and maybe changing the way NM spawn and keeping the zone up permanently. I could pop in farm charges for an item and the NM can be spawned every 15 mins or so. Also up the zones to 90.
    Bozja alone they could also let us get the field records by trading actual currency tokens for them. I only need a few from Dalriada, and they're the 5* "good luck getting this drop" ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Bozja alone they could also let us get the field records by trading actual currency tokens for them. I only need a few from Dalriada, and they're the 5* "good luck getting this drop" ones.

    And honst question. Does this make you want to do more of this content or less? I think MMO are a design in making you do something a lot, but you you feel fulfilled.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    And honst question. Does this make you want to do more of this content or less? I think MMO are a design in making you do something a lot, but you you feel fulfilled.
    Right now, I do not want to run Bozja because of how long I did with no real returns. Being able to buy the field records would make me more likely to come back just for fun. But right now it's filled with too much anger from a full year of trying to get the drops for to want to return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    So you want them to just release whatever is ready exactly at the 4 month mark? And that will be better? Or, what do people want exactly?
    I guess its less of "rush shit out the door" and more of "Don't lie to my face with fake tears then not even deliver on what you promised while crying"

    And I want to emphasize this, Yoshida and his crew were fake crying for sympathy when they announced this, it was part of a live letter and it was honestly uncomfortable to watch. The reason we know its fake is because they can't even live up to what they told us about the increased patch cycle, and its not even something they address anymore. I'm guessing they learned to do this form 1.0 or something.

    At the end of the day, Square Enix has the resources to do better than this, and they're choosing not to.
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    Isn't this thread kind of the crown jewel of all the general discussion whinging?

    They don't wanna work that fast anymore, and they decided not to do so. You could buy some SE stocks if you wanna become their boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    So you want them to just release whatever is ready exactly at the 4 month mark? And that will be better? Or, what do people want exactly?
    No, I don't expect them to release "what they have" exactly at 4 month mark, just pointing out that they cannot even follow their own already prolonged schedule for every single patch since EW was released.

    And what do people want? MMORPG content, not some IS/V&C/EO which have close to zero replayability. Having 4.5 months patch cycle wouldn't be problem if we had something to do. And no, before you say it, doing 10 000 leves and similar achievements isn't a content. Where is that lala with those achievements memes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    No, I don't expect them to release "what they have" exactly at 4 month mark, just pointing out that they cannot even follow their own already prolonged schedule for every single patch since EW was released.

    And what do people want? MMORPG content, not some IS/V&C/EO which have close to zero replayability. Having 4.5 months patch cycle wouldn't be problem if we had something to do. And no, before you say it, doing 10 000 leves and similar achievements isn't a content. Where is that lala with those achievements memes?
    Appreciate the reply.

    I guess for me, I see your comment and it sounds like "I don't like the content they're releasing, I want 'x' instead of 'y". Which is fair, but what about people that do like 'x' and not 'y'? Does your opinion on what MMORPG content matter more than theirs? Also, can you give me an example of what you consider 'MMORPG content'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Appreciate the reply.

    I guess for me, I see your comment and it sounds like "I don't like the content they're releasing, I want 'x' instead of 'y". Which is fair, but what about people that do like 'x' and not 'y'? Does your opinion on what MMORPG content matter more than theirs? Also, can you give me an example of what you consider 'MMORPG content'?
    The issue isn't inherently the content itself but the utterly lack of longevity. Take Island Sanctuary, for example. It has completely arbitrary timers because the content wouldn't last a weekend without them. There is nothing of substance beyond the initial novelty. Yoshida begging players to "take it slow" isn't him trying to promote casual content, it's him realizing the content can't possible last if players interact with it for even an hour daily.

    Variant/Criterion Dungeons are another thing. The rewards are awful, especially for Criterion. Therefore, you have precisely zero reason to continuously run it despite both serving as the "it" thing to do for their respective patch cycle. Variant actually highlights another issue: how useless healers are. There's no reason to touch the role as the content is designed to be solo-able with bonus actions. So you're just a gimped DPS with two buttons.

    What's sad at their cores both Island Sanctuary and Variant/Criterion Dungeons are good concepts. The former is just incredibly barebones and both lack longevity.
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    The "10 years plan" for the game is most likely 2 expansions.
    -1-2 years of 6.x
    -4 years of 7
    -the rest of 8
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