So, about Zenos... (SPOILERS)

[Eriane_Elis]

Is he dead again? Because after the ending of Endwalker, I personally don't think his dead. Just body? Sure! But the guy doesn't need his body to still be alive. Ge's practically an Ascian with his Resonant. So, unless he completely burnt all his aether, including the bit that sustains his life force in are final fight, I'm doubting he's dead and I have a feeling he'll return in an expansion or two through dynamism since he was left in that weird plane of it.

Thoughts?

Yoshi P made it clear that he is dead. In fact Hydaelin is dead-dead. Like super dead. So dead that she doesn't even exist anymore other than the world she created. Her soul was used in her trial against you. She's not coming back and neither is Zenos. If Zenos comes back he will be a baby with no memories or special abilities from his old self, he'll be reborn anew like anyone else. The story of Zenos is over and now we are transitioning to a whole new story because that was their plan -- to end this story because they were tired of trying to fix 1.0/ARR.

[TaleraRistain]

Yoshi P made it clear that he is dead. In fact Hydaelin is dead-dead. Like super dead. So dead that she doesn't even exist anymore other than the world she created. Her soul was used in her trial against you. She's not coming back and neither is Zenos. If Zenos comes back he will be a baby with no memories or special abilities from his old self, he'll be reborn anew like anyone else. The story of Zenos is over and now we are transitioning to a whole new story because that was their plan -- to end this story because they were tired of trying to fix 1.0/ARR.

No he didn't.

With Hydaelyn, Emet, Zodiark, and Hythlodaeus he was very clear.

With Zenos he didn't give a straight answer. He does that when he's trying not to spoil something.

[Garnix]

No he didn't.

With Hydaelyn, Emet, Zodiark, and Hythlodaeus he was very clear.

With Zenos he didn't give a straight answer. He does that when he's trying not to spoil something.

I think he was very clear in his statement.
He said "Zenos stopped breathing, you can see his dead body, right?".
He never said he is dead though
To me it is a very clear way of saying "he is not dead".

[TaleraRistain]

I think he was very clear in his statement.
He said "Zenos stopped breathing, you can see his dead body, right?".
He never said he is dead though
To me it is a very clear way of saying "he is not dead".

Not to mention we've seen him not breathing before. There was also the mention of how he's in a dimension where our laws don't apply. It read as very tongue-in-cheek and is the sort of thing I know I say to my husband when I'm trying not to lie but also not spoil something. Especially with how clear he was with other deaths that were asked about. He also straight told us he couldn't explain why Zenos became a reaper. I have multiple theories on how they could do things, but we'll have to wait and see.

[Claire_Pendragon]

IMO, the current writers chose for him to be over and done with. (as mentioned by another, that this time he decided to burn through everything he lad.)
but future writers might still revive him, since they may run out of ideas, and want to revisit this. Im not saying it WILL happen, just that its not unreasonable to assume this might happen.

[Soge01]

Zenos having some sort of connection to the 13th and having us investigate it partially because of that would be interesting. Especially if his Avatar is running amok on it's own on the Source or it purposely leads us onto something regarding itself, its relationship to Zenos and hinting at his current status condition and whereabout, if he's still alive, and its connection to the 13th.

[Divinemights]

Zeros has fulfilled his goal, satisfied his goal, and served his role.
Let him rest in peace

[Aneshda]

Why should Zenos get a new Job, new Gear, new Name even, just to die so cheapass at the end of the Stars? Just cause you Guys don't like him cause he is a different kind of Villain, doesn't make him boring or even useless. He has just a different Story which we don't know about yet.

There are Questions about the things he said.

- What of you, my mirror? Born into this world, bestowed name, bid to seek out strife and adventure... Was this life a gift... or a burden?

This makes me ask, where is he from?
Bestowed Name? Hmm another question.
Don't know but was our life a gift... or even more a burden if we look back? I watched so many Cutscene and was our Adventures really Adventures? Or have we just corrected the wrongs of the past?

To flood the 1th Shard with Light was a mistake made by Emet-Selch, Elidibus, Mitron and Loghrif.
To flood the 13th Shard with Darkness was a mistake made by Emet-Selch, Lahabrea, Elidibus, Mitron and Loghrif.
The Endsinger / Meteion was a mistake Hermes made
What happend in Garlemald was Emet-Selch again.
The Fight with Gaius ... Lahabreas mistake.
The Sundering of the World Venats mistake.
The list goes on ....

- Never have I understood those around me. Understood their obsessions. Besieged by their banality, the world was a mire of tedium and trivialities.

Who he means with around me? The Ascians? The Ancients? His Father? Was Varis even his Father? Or the normal People?

[TheMightyMollusk]

In my defense, I can be very dumb at times.

[Pyro2hell3]

Honestly with Zenos nothing would surprise me he could show up outside our inn room saying" Greetings have you heard about the glory of the one true god Yoshi P?" and I'd still go yeah this seems about right