Garuda after patch

[Soukyuu]

Yeah I do know what proxy trace means. But my regular tracert gives me a jump to Dallas, Texas before jumping to Japan. I clearly just wanted to simplify the idea with a picture for forum users with less network knowledge.

Ok, just wanted to be sure. And I hate you for having about 100ms less latency than me

I'd imagne Australian players route via singapore or something then going to Japan.

Probably. There are even cases where making a detour to the US is the better choice, if it means avoiding a server in say, Malaysia (no offence, but their infrastructure has an average response time of 800+ms). For example, a Portuguese friend is normally routed to Japan directly, with an average latency of about 350ms, just like mine. After trying out battleping, her response times improved, even though the signal went to the US first...

Lag is no excuse for not being able to do content, it just adds some slight extra challenge and kills some of the game experience.

I partially agree. It depends how bad the lag is. A lag of 700ms+ handicaps you a lot. Let's just say, a normal latency of being on the other side of the world doesn't handicap you, but there are cases of suboptimal routing.... and both SE and ISP claiming they can't do anything about it (really now, isn't it the ISP that decides HOW the signal is routed?)

When I look at gameplay from JP players on youtube, my gaming experience is nowhere close as smooth as their. I dont expect SE to move servers or anything like that just maybe turn more stuff client based or something. There is a fine line where you decide what goes server side and whats client side.

Well they did say the lag we're having now is because of the servers being old and the engine having too much stuff server side, and that they will change it with 2.0.

I really hope they do.

[Raikki]

The handling of the Garuda exploit was disappointing and the damage is irrevocable, but it revealed a lot about the character of the playerbase that the devs will hopefully bear in mind in the future. Asking players politely to not exploit a bug with no risk of a ban amounts to an invitation to exploit it as much as humanly possible before it gets fixed.

We also got to see that a lot of "hardcore" shells turned out to be cowards who couldn't get the fight down before the exploit, then rushed 7/7 before patch instead of learning it, and now go around saying, "oh, yeah, I haven't done Garuda since patch because I'm bored of it already". Nobody cares about who has Garuda weapons anymore, but we'll remember for a long time who came to play and who wussed out.

[indira]

reason instances suck, once people get everything they aint doing it again. they exploit a glitch and get everything. and the eliteist come out.

elite = noobs who can only do things with max equip, when everyone else can do it gimped.

[zenzag]

I'm not sure what anyone expects the dev's to do about this one.

Give it time and I'm sure people will be jumping to get their 7/7 on Garuda. After they're done playing Diablo III. And if they haven't already gotten them all (cross your fingers!)

[Nakiamiie]

Dear devs,


I am not used to write on this forum, but today I feel I have to.


I know the glitch in the Garuda fight was not made on purpose. I know you had to correct it, and I am grateful for that.

But have you seen what is going on now ?

Players killed Garuda as fast as they could with the mana burn style, in order to get all the totems they needed, before the patch.


Now, when we look for members for the normal strategy, nobody wants in. They are afraid. They say the fight is now too hard. They go raid because they enjoyed the glitch and now have other things to do, they don't want to help. It is really challenging now to find members for this fight.


And what happens when you are 8/8 ? The server crashes. People get disconnected. Very good moment.


I will not bother talking about fights based on the position of the players, which is quite hard regarding latency. You know it is useless.


So what happened to the players of FFXIV? Where has teamwork gone ? What about mutual aid? Maybe you are done with Garuda, but can you not help other people with it ? Now almost everyone plays for his own interest.

Playing FFXIV is not fun anymore. It is irritating and frustrating.

I prefer tougher fights, the joy when winning is greater. If only the drop rates would be drastically increased, it would be all fun and a real achievement (not talking about a 18 hours fight too, I mean a strategic fight). I am not a hardcore player, I haven't even won the Moogle battle yet. But I remember my effort to beat Ifrit for the first time. When I did, it was pure bliss! ...only to be broken later by the retarded drop rates, but that's another story.

[Molly_Millions]

I know in my shell, we take our time to master each end-game encounter. Some shells are ok with spamming one dungeon or primal over and over again for 16 hours straight for days on end until they get it. We don't, we spend probably 4 hours max on one encounter so that nobody gets burned out. Because of our approach, we've gotten behind a bit. Most players in my shell want to master the older content, and get geared up from doing so, before making any serious effort to take down Garuda. I can't speak for everyone, but since the BLM burn was the easy way, I'm guessing other shells basically have the same thing in mind.

[CrazyViet228]

Doing Garuda now with the LS the cave was empty as can be when I showed up.

[Req]

Doing Garuda now with the LS the cave was empty as can be when I showed up.

Same, just us and another party.

[Krausus]

Doing Garuda now with the LS the cave was empty as can be when I showed up.

I think that can be because of 2 factors 1. being people spammed the glitch enough they dont need the loot and 2. Diablo 3

[Leo_Hart]

just saw a JP shouting for another blm burn party :O writing yesterday beat her @ 0.7% HP, he wants try again