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  1. #71
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    Enfarious's Avatar
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    Elasandria Servion
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    Just because you obtain the "useful" skills from 1-10 or 40-50 doesn't mean you understand how to use them in a group setup. There is nothing hard from 1-50, or that you can't do solo.

    Finding a wolf party at level 40 so 5 hours later you can ding 50 doesn't help the problem either.

    There needs to be way more mid-low level dungeons to encourage small to full parties to group up and play together. (And no I don't mean run it solo on your level 50 one time to get an achievement).

    Content should be level capped, or scaled (50 joins and is scaled to level 30) so that team mechanics are being developed at early levels.

    I have done a few PUG's to help some people get there AF armor in Darkhold and I have never seen such horrid play by level 50's before. No idea what the concept of "hate" control is, no idea how to dodge or position themselves in mechanics where you cant stand still and spam WS A-B. This isn't a leve... You cant just rush in and spam WS over and over and have a total disregard for your actions.

    Normally they will die in under 10 seconds on ogre while the 3 of us that understand concepts kill it and raise them up. Even explaining the tactics doesn't help.

    This system allows players to create an account today, and have a 50 with full AF by the end of the week who could have spent as little as an hour actually Playing his class. (PL anyone?)

    Then they join and Ifrit/moogle/garuda/darkhold party and are floored that an encounter takes actual skill, attention, patience, teamwork, effort..... and promptly run to the forums to qq about lag (god forbid you prepare for a plume, astral flow, etc), difficulty, class stacking etc etc

    This is my main issue with the game atm
    And while alot of people don't want to admit it, the old school FFXI leveling system provided just that kind of time to experiment/learn/develop skills on a job before you wandered into EG content. Soloing/PLing/100k xp per hr pt spots from WARs Steel Cyclone spam doesn't make for great players. It doesn't make them bad, but it certainly leaves them under skilled and not 100% on how to play any job in a full party where it counts.
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  2. #72
    Player
    Enfarious's Avatar
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    Elasandria Servion
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zozma View Post
    Yeah I do know what proxy trace means. But my regular tracert gives me a jump to Dallas, Texas before jumping to Japan. I clearly just wanted to simplify the idea with a picture for forum users with less network knowledge.

    I'd imagne Australian players route via singapore or something then going to Japan.
    ....
    Lag is no excuse for not being able to do content, it just adds some slight extra challenge and kills some of the game experience.
    When I look at gameplay from JP players on youtube, my gaming experience is nowhere close as smooth as their. I dont expect SE to move servers or anything like that just maybe turn more stuff client based or something. There is a fine line where you decide what goes server side and whats client side.
    I assume that your using a router that has some configurable settings, have you tried setting a static route in it's routing table to give yourself a minimal hop count, it might cut out some of those 250+ms hops your getting. You may be able to do this in windows too but having it in the hardware might make it a little faster.
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  3. #73
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    TheFatHousecat's Avatar
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    Character
    Deepening Shadow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by prymortal View Post
    captain brian from Durandal
    WAIT, AM I CAPTAIN BRIAN?
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  4. #74
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    Raikki's Avatar
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    Character
    Raikki Zero
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    The handling of the Garuda exploit was disappointing and the damage is irrevocable, but it revealed a lot about the character of the playerbase that the devs will hopefully bear in mind in the future. Asking players politely to not exploit a bug with no risk of a ban amounts to an invitation to exploit it as much as humanly possible before it gets fixed.

    We also got to see that a lot of "hardcore" shells turned out to be cowards who couldn't get the fight down before the exploit, then rushed 7/7 before patch instead of learning it, and now go around saying, "oh, yeah, I haven't done Garuda since patch because I'm bored of it already". Nobody cares about who has Garuda weapons anymore, but we'll remember for a long time who came to play and who wussed out.
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  5. #75
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    reason instances suck, once people get everything they aint doing it again. they exploit a glitch and get everything. and the eliteist come out.

    elite = noobs who can only do things with max equip, when everyone else can do it gimped.
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  6. #76
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    Zenius Astrata
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    I'm not sure what anyone expects the dev's to do about this one.

    Give it time and I'm sure people will be jumping to get their 7/7 on Garuda. After they're done playing Diablo III. And if they haven't already gotten them all (cross your fingers!)
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Your Sig is annoying as f**k. lol x_X
    It gave me a Seizure...
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  8. #78
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    ArkNova's Avatar
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    Character
    Chizumi Mooncleave
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deltara View Post
    Stop running Garuda without me and maybe you'll win.
    maybe if your happy ass would log in instead of creeping through the forum!
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  9. #79
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    Character
    Damien Ramirez
    World
    Shinryu
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    WAIT, AM I CAPTAIN BRIAN?
    Lol no i looked carefuly for a random name & server as to not offend anyone
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  10. #80
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    Zozma Facinaturu
    World
    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Enfarious View Post
    I assume that your using a router that has some configurable settings, have you tried setting a static route in it's routing table to give yourself a minimal hop count, it might cut out some of those 250+ms hops your getting. You may be able to do this in windows too but having it in the hardware might make it a little faster.
    I doubt I can tweak it any further. I'm on fiber optics all way to Oslo where the traffic jumps all way to Texas. Even tho I have many jumps most of the on the start and end of the route are just local switches. Apart from that I only have 2 big jumps;
    Norway>Texas 160ms
    Texas>Japan 130ms

    Too bad the programmers and testers are JP ONRY and they don't experience the network stuttering others do. I bet JP casters never need to stop and pause 500ms before casting spells...

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