Roulette Exploits

[Seraphor]

Considering we have 4 series of Alliances so far, 12 raids in total, every raid should have an equal 8.3% chance of showing up in a roulette queue, unless of course someone is exploiting a system mechanic to eliminate some of the possible results.

Nope, never going to happen.

1. Alliance Roulette is one of the best sources of EXP, which means it's incredibly likely that those queuing for it are below level 90, very likely below level 80, fairly likely below level 70... etc.
So you're more likely to have players who cannot run the higher duties.

2. Many players don't unlock all of the side content. It's likely that at least one out of the 24 haven't unlocked the Mhachi raids, or maybe one hasn't unlocked Nier, and although Ivalice is required for Bozja even that is old content now, so it's not unlikely that someone doesn't have those unlocked.
Get one player of each and you're limited to the level 50 raids, the only ones everyone has to unlock.

Even if you eliminate this "exploit", the result isn't going to be much different.

[Juun]

Well, I'm not saying that it effects the queue *that* much but it probably does effect the queue some given how many people are doing it. The exploit is pretty simple, take off clothes to lower ilvl so you get a level 50 alliance. They do this because those are faster. Simple as that.

They also give memories.

[Iscah]

They also give memories.

A serious failure of the schedule design for the Resistance weapons. The Mhach and Ivalice raids should have been positioned so you continue to get something beneficial from them every time they come up in roulette, not forcing people to rush them multiple times on Day 1 and then never touch them again.

I'm at that step on an alt and I want to do it organically through the roulette, but the duties just don't come up often enough to get through it in a reasonable time. Needing one or two runs per weapon would have been much better than front-loading five of each. People would need to do more runs overall if they're collecting weapons, but at a steadier pace.

[Saraide]

2PM Gmt -3 on Sunday, NA servers, Puppet's Bunker. It is included on roulette, so there's no reason it should take THAT long to find a party. Considering we have 4 series of Alliances so far, 12 raids in total, every raid should have an equal 8.3% chance of showing up in a roulette queue, unless of course someone is exploiting a system mechanic to eliminate some of the possible results.

Roulette is there for whatever instance is in need of filling up right now and there are going to be far more lower level instances than higher level instances. Crystal tower is an msq requirement while none of the others are. I'm not denying that syrcus baiting isnt happening, I've seen it myself. But that is not actually enough proof that it's skewing anything. All you need for the roulette to force a syrcus or lota run is one person to either: be there for MSQ, have job level below 60, trying to get any of the relic stuff from there or not have the other raids unlocked. Those are all legitimate.

My guess is that the only thing ilvl cheese is changing is that it guarantees you a spot in lota or syrcus while possibly taking that spot away from someone else who will now get any of the other raids. I say this because for a bit I queued up with someone doing the ilvl cheese. Predictably we only got lota and syrcus. Whenever I didnt go with them, I never got either of these. When I queue with my max level jobs I frequently get one of the 70 or 80 raids.

[Bacent]

Man, I guess those players right below level 60 are plotting against you, huh OP?

[Sacred-Oblivion]

So you are saying people actually don't want to run high level duties? Maybe SE should look into why players avoid those and not try to bully us into doing content we don't want to do... Just saying.

If you're afraid of getting a challenging alliance raid then don't queue for the roulette. Period. Being able to force 23 other people into a lvl 50 raid is a loophole (exploit) in the roulette system, and has a negative effect on people who want to enjoy a variety of raids. If the exploit gets patched and forces people like you out of the alliance roulette, then that's just side bonus in my view.

[Hyperia]

I know several players who did not unlock anything beyond the ARR raids so they will only get those. The stories about the ivalice raids keep them from unlocking anything else.

[Azuri]

If you're afraid of getting a challenging alliance raid then don't queue for the roulette. Period. Being able to force 23 other people into a lvl 50 raid is a loophole (exploit) in the roulette system, and has a negative effect on people who want to enjoy a variety of raids. If the exploit gets patched and forces people like you out of the alliance roulette, then that's just side bonus in my view.

I can get X reward for doing a 15-minute raid or the same X reward for suffering an hour long slog full of 60% gcd uptime heroes. The choice is obvious.

Also, roulettes are there to fill queues, not "enjoy variety of raids". May I advise to use direct queuing option for those?

[Kewitt]

There is an issue when the queue breaks and you are no longer be matched. This has happened to me 3 times since 2.0.

in your case, the problem is they need to queue people's highest content down.

However, they don't want to do this because they want as many new players to think the game is great with short queues.

[MaxCarnage]

If you're afraid of getting a challenging alliance raid then don't queue for the roulette. Period. Being able to force 23 other people into a lvl 50 raid is a loophole (exploit) in the roulette system, and has a negative effect on people who want to enjoy a variety of raids. If the exploit gets patched and forces people like you out of the alliance roulette, then that's just side bonus in my view.

If you hate the result you're getting so much, maybe you should stop queueing. ~Period~. If you want higher level raids so bad, you could even try queueing directly since you don't seem to understand there are more reasons than just this "exploit" that cause people to get CT.