Roulette Exploits

[Juun]

Well, I'm not saying that it effects the queue *that* much but it probably does effect the queue some given how many people are doing it. The exploit is pretty simple, take off clothes to lower ilvl so you get a level 50 alliance. They do this because those are faster. Simple as that.

They also give memories.

[Iscah]

They also give memories.

A serious failure of the schedule design for the Resistance weapons. The Mhach and Ivalice raids should have been positioned so you continue to get something beneficial from them every time they come up in roulette, not forcing people to rush them multiple times on Day 1 and then never touch them again.

I'm at that step on an alt and I want to do it organically through the roulette, but the duties just don't come up often enough to get through it in a reasonable time. Needing one or two runs per weapon would have been much better than front-loading five of each. People would need to do more runs overall if they're collecting weapons, but at a steadier pace.

[Bacent]

Man, I guess those players right below level 60 are plotting against you, huh OP?

[Hyperia]

I know several players who did not unlock anything beyond the ARR raids so they will only get those. The stories about the ivalice raids keep them from unlocking anything else.

[Kewitt]

There is an issue when the queue breaks and you are no longer be matched. This has happened to me 3 times since 2.0.

in your case, the problem is they need to queue people's highest content down.

However, they don't want to do this because they want as many new players to think the game is great with short queues.

[MaxCarnage]

If you're afraid of getting a challenging alliance raid then don't queue for the roulette. Period. Being able to force 23 other people into a lvl 50 raid is a loophole (exploit) in the roulette system, and has a negative effect on people who want to enjoy a variety of raids. If the exploit gets patched and forces people like you out of the alliance roulette, then that's just side bonus in my view.

If you hate the result you're getting so much, maybe you should stop queueing. ~Period~. If you want higher level raids so bad, you could even try queueing directly since you don't seem to understand there are more reasons than just this "exploit" that cause people to get CT.

[EgilTheStressedMage]

Um no, some people like me go do other stuff like hunts, FATES or beast tribes while we wait for queue and usually I toggle between jobs while I'm at it.

Then lock in the gear you que with so you can’t switch back to your highest one when it pops.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Then lock in the gear you que with so you can’t switch back to your highest one when it pops.

Also easily bypassed. Just buy an ilvl 70 set off the mb so you're guaranteed to get Syrcus/Labs, and you'll look normal. 99% of people don't check for gear anyway, and if someone does, you can just not say anything or just say 'best I had on me'. Nothing they can do about it since it's not a GM'able offense and good luck kicking them once that first chest is open and everyone just wants to get out of there ASAP.

The only thing your solution accomplishes is now rather than bringing their best gear, you have effectively punished the remaining players by forcing the run to take longer than it could have, while giving zero punishment to the person you wanted to target.

Not going to lie, why does doing just Crystal Tower unlock the entire Roulette? Just like doing only Fist of the Father in Normal Raids unlocks the entire Roulette too. It's... not much of a roulette when there's only one option.

Because newer players want/need access to the roulettes too? It ain't rocket science. If requiring more than CT was mandatory for the Alliance roulette, you're basically saying that ARR players don't have the right to access the roulette until they're all the way done with HW at the absolute minimum. It would also effectively hold the roulette hostage if someone really doesn't want to unlock the other raids for various reasons other than just wanting an easier alliance raid queue. People were already annoyed by CT being mandatory for MSQ.

If you're afraid of getting a challenging alliance raid then don't queue for the roulette. Period. Being able to force 23 other people into a lvl 50 raid is a loophole (exploit) in the roulette system, and has a negative effect on people who want to enjoy a variety of raids. If the exploit gets patched and forces people like you out of the alliance roulette, then that's just side bonus in my view.

You do realize that the people intentionally lowering their gear are likely one of the lesser issues of why you're getting CT correct?

-CT is the only instance required by MSQ. So anyone hard queueing it (which will be many times more magnitudes than people hard queueing the other raids) will automatically drag all 23 other players with them to CT.
-Any single person not level 60+ will automatically drag the other 23 people with them to CT.
-Anyone who doesn't have the other raids unlocked will automatically drag the other 23 people with them to CT.

I guarantee, you could remove this exploit and over 80% of your runs will still be CT purely for the reasons above. The raid has so many biases skewed towards it that focusing on people lowering their ilvl is wasting your energy when its merely a drop in the pond compared to how many other ways the roulette is biased to push you towards it.

Then there's just the logistical problem of the roulette itself that drives those people to unequip gear in the first place: the hugely in-proportionate rewards vs time spent for CT vs the other raids. CT offers the exact same rewards as getting Dun Scaith, Orbonne or Tower but at a fraction of the time spent, and this is a hugely glaring flaw. Even if you force ilvl checks based on your level, I have a feeling the only reality you're going to create is similar to castrum, where upon being presented with an unfavorable option, many of these same players who already unequip will opt to simply quit and try again in 30mins, which won't be helpful for anyone actually trying to do the instance if its late at night or a bad timeframe and the person(s) who leaves are crucial roles.

The truly best option is to repurpose the soon to be vacant MSQ roulette as a CT roulette, give it the same rewards as current alliance, and then move to buff alliance raid's rewards to entice people to go for it on top of CT roulette each day. Then everyone wins without having to do stupid draconian rules for the roulette.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I've been getting Syrcus like 80% of my daily roulettes. It's so boring at this point but at least it's mindless and stress-free. That said, about half of those runs also include a brand new player who gives tomestone bonuses so maybe also we just have more new players clearing for the first time.

[xenahawk]

I don't know about you guys, but i'm getting pretty sick of people exploiting the Roulette matchmaking system to force low level duties. When is this getting patched out? I want to be able to actually play a higher level duty without waiting for hours.

Randoms queu pretty quick especially for dps but yeah if your looking to do a specific one i wouldnt be surprised if your there a while. But thats not a glitch or exploit its just something that tends to happen if one narrows the options of what duties they want to run. Also take into consideration there is only one alliance raid that has to be unlocked as part of the story meaning it wouldnt surprise me if thats thd only one a some players actually unlocked.