Roulette Exploits

[Gemina]

More often than not, it isn't an exploit and one or more people are either new, or don't meet the requirements for higher raids. They could fix it so players can't force it, but the chances are so stupendously high that at least one person is under level 60, that the effort to force it let alone program the game so it can't happen is a ton of wasted effort.

It is literally the exact same with Raid roulette, and more often than not you are heading right back into Alexander.

In the dev's eye, there is nothing to fix here. It is working as intended because roulette's are a way to reward the player for their contributions to the community. What should be done though is allowing a greater compensation due to the lv and/or ilv discrepancy between those who are leveling/choose to naked queue, and those of the higher lv and ilv. I think this is done somewhat, but not enough to prevent threads like this from popping up.

[Leyllara]

More often than not, it isn't an exploit and one or more people are either new, or don't meet the requirements for higher raids. They could fix it so players can't force it, but the chances are so stupendously high that at least one person is under level 60, that the effort to force it let alone program the game so it can't happen is a ton of wasted effort.

It is literally the exact same with Raid roulette, and more often than not you are heading right back into Alexander.

In the dev's eye, there is nothing to fix here. It is working as intended because roulette's are a way to reward the player for their contributions to the community. What should be done though is allowing a greater compensation due to the lv and/or ilv discrepancy between those who are leveling/choose to naked queue, and those of the higher lv and ilv. I think this is done somewhat, but not enough to prevent threads like this from popping up.

There are duties that already sync ilvl to a specific one regardless of your ilvl, the system exists, just need to be applied for roulettes, sync to the job level and unlocked duty instead of ilvl.

[Gemina]

There are duties that already sync ilvl to a specific one regardless of your ilvl, the system exists, just need to be applied for roulettes, sync to the job level and unlocked duty instead of ilvl.

There is a bonus to reward a player for discrepancy between their level and the level of the duty, but not between players iirc. Even then, this is an exp and gil bonus. There really isn't a good system in place to reward the players who want higher level content when doing roulettes. That's what needs to be fixed. If they were to implement the system I proposed, those who choose to naked queue would arse themselves right out of the greater reward.

[weebtext]

I just wish I could opt out of the CT raids, they're not fun.

[LaylaTsarra]

just as a point of information 80 skips only unlock the CT raids so SE doesn't seem to care if the others are run or not. Why don't they unlock all the raids?

[HyperiusUltima]

There's a rather easy way to fix Alliance Roulette: Just do a check on Level while making sure iLv is a requirement to ACCESS the Roulette, similarly to why we always put a iLv requirement to enter Expert Roulette and X0 Roulette.

Crystal Tower Alliance Raid Roulette: Lv 50, min iLv 90.
Void Ark Alliance Raid Roulette: Lv 60, min iLv 235
Ivalice Alliance Raid Roulette: Lv 70, min iLv 365
Nier Alliance Raid Roulette: Lv 80, min iLv 495

Going by the iLv requires from the top of the Alliance Raids, you'd see at Lv 50 - 59 you'd have Crystal Tower with a iLv requirement of 90 to access the roulette. However, once you hit Lv 60, the Alliance Raid Roulette bumps up to i235, along with clearance requirements to access with each expansion you hit level cap on. This would prevent any issues with people just going naked to always get Labyrinth, and would allow more variety in roulettes for those who are higher level.

[Poporito_Popoto]

I don't know about you guys, but i'm getting pretty sick of people exploiting the Roulette matchmaking system to force low level duties. When is this getting patched out? I want to be able to actually play a higher level duty without waiting for hours.

Be a tank or healer. Done.

[Johners]

It's technically not an exploit as you're not tricking the game into thinking you have a lower item level, you're merely unequipping gear so you queue in at a lower item level. Now, given that higher item level = better, it should just queue you on the highest item level you can equip from your inventory (although you could just store in a retainer as a workaround there).

Now, I'm not saying it's right to do this but appreciate why people do it. Crystal Tower alliance raids, and a large chunk of ARR content in general in pretty much every queue, is a braindead zerg that saves a ton of time. I'd rather burst through CT in 15-20 minutes than spend 35-40 minutes doing Nier or Ivalice raids. Likewise, getting a level 50 ARR trial is much better than getting Zodiark normal and watching people fail to movement mechanics for 30 minutes.

I'm aware that the intended design of the roulette system is to keep players populating all queues so new players get into content as quickly as possible, but I've done a lot of this enough times already that I want to be in-and-out with no problems. We're in the raid logging territory of the expansion right now until the next tier drops, I don't want to be soft progressing content again and especially that from older expansions.

[KageTokage]

For a long while people have also been using certain less-then-legit methods to tell what instance they're getting from the roulette in advance and immediately backing out if the game queues or starts queueing them into an instance they don't like so they can avoid an immediate penalty.

I'm not sure if they can actually do anything to fix that particular problem, though.

[EgilTheStressedMage]

Remove the ability to change gear when you que. You already can't join parties, and when you get matched you can only commence or withdraw.

Unless they actually que in looking like Jackass' Party Boy and not glamoured, in which case should be reportable if it isn't.