Yoshi P... Please dont listen to subscribers!

[Daku_Naito]

Sends SE a very clear message, "We're morons!"

Just because people disagree, it doesn't mean they are morons.

[Denmo]

Just because people disagree, it doesn't mean they are morons.

Tis a joke, sarge. These threads need to lighten up.

[Daku_Naito]

Tis a joke, sarge. These threads need to lighten up.

Yes, I got the joke lol.

[bobbygunz]

not to sound like an arse but players are really screwing this game up. with their lil wants and whines about stuff and the devs and yoshida trying to please these whiners is really messing up the game. Yoshi P has an awsome understanding of mmos and how they should play and evolve. just let the devs and yoshi do their magic people!!! FOR GOD SAKES MAN!!! its not fun when u know whats comming because suggestions are all over the forum and they usually are lame and have no real significance to the game. NUFF SAID!!

Yoshi doesn't know anything. He is looking at WoW and imitating, meanwhile every game coming out this year is already evolving beyond that.

But I think these forums have a strong right-wing FFXI bias, and that's hurting the game as much as anything else. It validates the development team's antiquated point of view on combat mechanics etc.

[Daku_Naito]

Yoshi doesn't know anything. He is looking at WoW and imitating, meanwhile every game coming out this year is already evolving beyond that.

But I think these forums have a strong right-wing FFXI bias, and that's hurting the game as much as anything else. It validates the development team's antiquated point of view on combat mechanics etc.

So the people in the forums like FFXI, so the devs are listening and doing more FFXI stuff, yet Yoshi-P is imitating WoW? I don't get it. It would be stupid for any developer to not follow some of the good in WoW, it was very popular. I think Yoshi-P has done well, and there isn't any evidence against so.

[Gramul]

It would be stupid for any developer to not follow some of the good in WoW, it was very popular.

AND it still exists. We need to bring people in by being original. Why would they want to subscribe to a game that does what the biggest game does for no extra charge.
I'm not saying we shouldn't add some regular features to the game, but it needs to stand out at its core. How the player progresses, what they do on a daily basis, and how they interact with the world and others are what they need to revolutionize. Raids and primals aren't going to cut it and I hope to see more fresh new ideas from Yoshi and team.

[bobbygunz]

So the people in the forums like FFXI, so the devs are listening and doing more FFXI stuff, yet Yoshi-P is imitating WoW? I don't get it. It would be stupid for any developer to not follow some of the good in WoW, it was very popular. I think Yoshi-P has done well, and there isn't any evidence against so.

WoW is just FFXI with instances and casual gameplay. Both WoW and FFXI are out-dated compared to current generation MMOs like Guild Wars 2 and TERA and Blade and Soul and ArcheAge etc. All the current games are bringing something new to the table in terms of questing, combat, or freedom. Meanwhile, FFXIV is harkening back to the days of WoW and FFXI and will suffer for it.

[Elexia]

WoW is just FFXI with instances and casual gameplay. Both WoW and FFXI are out-dated compared to current generation MMOs like Guild Wars 2 and TERA and Blade and Soul and ArcheAge etc. All the current games are bringing something new to the table in terms of questing, combat, or freedom. Meanwhile, FFXIV is harkening back to the days of WoW and FFXI and will suffer for it.

Tera is as old and generic as it gets. Only the battle system is different, everything else is what was present in MMOs from the 90s to now. ALL new MMOs suffer simply for the fact "it's not WoW" or "not a WoW killer" or tries to hard to mimic WoW.

SWTOR and RIFT were the highly anticipated western MMOs..look at how they turned out, MMOs suffer for reasons beyond being "old school" and just because you don't like those, doesn't mean it will suffer.

[Hycinthus]

Tera is as old and generic as it gets. Only the battle system is different, everything else is what was present in MMOs from the 90s to now. ALL new MMOs suffer simply for the fact "it's not WoW" or "not a WoW killer" or tries to hard to mimic WoW.

SWTOR and RIFT were the highly anticipated western MMOs..look at how they turned out, MMOs suffer for reasons beyond being "old school" and just because you don't like those, doesn't mean it will suffer.

So did SWTOR fail?

[Chiruru53]

Yes... Square has always been known to make great, successful MMOs... I mean, look at how long XI has been struggling to stay alive... they added abyssea which BOMBED the game... great job, there. I think taking input from customers is fine, they just need to use common sense when putting it into consideration. Abyssea was NOT common sense.