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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    are you people seriously tossing around 20k as a number again?

    we have anywhere from 12-20k people on at any given time, that doesnt make it the actual population
    20k is just a guess number but around the ball park answer. I was merely giving an example.
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    there's a huge difference between "whines" and legitimate concerns. It's also a subjective difference, because many people will consider an opinion that is at odds with their own to be a "whine." Any developer should only listen so much to the players, such that their own vision of their creation isn't totally lost, but should take reasonable concerns to heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    there's a huge difference between "whines" and legitimate concerns. It's also a subjective difference, because many people will consider an opinion that is at odds with their own to be a "whine." Any developer should only listen so much to the players, such that their own vision of their creation isn't totally lost, but should take reasonable concerns to heart.
    You're right except people generally whine when they have legitimate concerns. That is why they have people looking through the forums. To pick the good from the bad.
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    I'm going to be in the credits /joy

    I can claim all the good parts of the game are there because I posted in the general discussion forum.
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    I agree with OP. Everybody comes on the forum to whine about something they want, something they dont want, or something they saw in another game. While some ideas are good and need to be weighted, 95% of posters are just selfish haters and obvious trolls like in this thread trying to discredit OP.

    I hope the forum managers do their job making a synthesis of the good ideas and people's opinion, and do not send too much nerf this nerf that to the devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silma View Post
    I agree with OP. Everybody comes on the forum to whine about something they want, something they dont want, or something they saw in another game. While some ideas are good and need to be weighted, 95% of posters are just selfish haters and obvious trolls like in this thread trying to discredit OP.

    I hope the forum managers do their job making a synthesis of the good ideas and people's opinion, and do not send too much nerf this nerf that to the devs.
    Exactly.. there is an distinct difference between Opinions and Good ideas that work when sorting out the good and the bad.
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    its fine to listen, but not everything the community writes is good
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    Quote Originally Posted by GinTama View Post
    its fine to listen, but not everything the community writes is good
    That's mostly subjective. I mean yeah. There are some obvious ideas that just won't work with the game, but everyone here is genuinely interested in improving the game the way they see fit. Otherwise they would be wasting 10 bucks a month trying to ruin an already damaged game.
    Simply labeling someone as a troll just says to me that you're not willing to give differing opinions a second thought.
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    I find the mixed messages we're sending highly amusing. Top 2 threads: "Yoshi P, listen to your subscribers" and "Yoshi P, don't listen to your subscribers!"
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    Sends SE a very clear message, "We're morons!"
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