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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    Under no definition of the word are we investors, we are consumers.

    Investors, invest a specific amount of money into a project or company with the understanding that they will see a return on that intial investment, in the form of clear monetary returns. They invest primarily in the company though, hoping to reap the profits as a whole, very rarely does an investor put money into a single project, especially when we're talking about large multinational companies like Square-Enix.

    As CONSUMERS of a fee based product we want a return on our payments in the form of a desirable product that we will enjoy and continue to consume...


    Yeah, no matter how you cut it, investor is not the correct term for what we are
    That's super. But you know what I meant. For us, our return is a good game and a discount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Even when people get what they want they still complain though..so it's hard to please people that cannot realistically be pleased. It's like trying to please a cat in heat.

    (and I hope to god people know that reference >.>)
    Not true, if they get something they like, they move on to something else. improving the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    Under no definition of the word are we investors, we are consumers.

    Investors, invest a specific amount of money into a project or company with the understanding that they will see a return on that intial investment, in the form of clear monetary returns. They invest primarily in the company though, hoping to reap the profits as a whole, very rarely does an investor put money into a single project, especially when we're talking about large multinational companies like Square-Enix.

    As CONSUMERS of a fee based product we want a return on our payments in the form of a desirable product that we will enjoy and continue to consume...


    Yeah, no matter how you cut it, investor is not the correct term for what we are
    Really, I thought investors invest for some sort of profit, not distinctly monetary, but profit in general. Are you 100% positive it is just monetary? Anyways, we've made a monetary gain by saving money on the final product.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    All depends on the Feedback, The only feedback that should really be taken into consideration is Bugs and technical Difficulties, and some Feedback that deals with the game. Overall, he really should be doing his on thing, making the game through his eyes, not the gamers eyes..

    Aiming to please the crowd? Kinda hard when alot of people have their own ways of thinking what is good and what is bad, but I feel as a player of any game in general, that I want to play the Companies game, not Player's opinions. Everyone's opinion differs from another, some way or another. The best thing any developer should do, is make the game the way they want it.

    That said, I really hope 2.0 is the imagination of Yoshi-P and not the players. If Yoshi-P choose to take Feedback Game related to the game, then that's his decision and his alone, if that makes a game good then I'm all for it.
    It isn't that hard to please the crowd, if people are still playing, they are somewhat pleased with the game, that doesn't mean they don't want to improve their experience, because they do, which is why they complain, to aim for more. It is a natural human thing to do.
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    Last edited by Daku_Naito; 05-16-2012 at 02:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    Under no definition of the word are we investors, we are consumers.

    Investors, invest a specific amount of money into a project or company with the understanding that they will see a return on that intial investment, in the form of clear monetary returns. They invest primarily in the company though, hoping to reap the profits as a whole, very rarely does an investor put money into a single project, especially when we're talking about large multinational companies like Square-Enix.

    As CONSUMERS of a fee based product we want a return on our payments in the form of a desirable product that we will enjoy and continue to consume...


    Yeah, no matter how you cut it, investor is not the correct term for what we are
    It's a service, not a product. /lawyered.bmp

    Anyway, threads like this make me die a little inside.
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    I c what diz thread did hur.

    (Oh, you made a thread to whine about what other people want but you don't and gave it a title opposite of an existing thread. You must be so witty, clever and original.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    I c what diz thread did hur.

    (Oh, you made a thread to whine about what other people want but you don't and gave it a title opposite of an existing thread. You must be so witty, clever and original.)
    why ty. them some kind words...................... coughwusscough
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    Yoshi dont listen to your Subscribers! Especially the guy who said this! Dont listen to him!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...162#post675162
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...430#post651430
    etcetc

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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Yoshi dont listen to your Subscribers! Especially the guy who said this! Dont listen to him!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...162#post675162
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...430#post651430
    etcetc

    trollfailz
    Comeon Vageta, you really posted this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Yoshi dont listen to your Subscribers! Especially the guy who said this! Dont listen to him!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...162#post675162
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...430#post651430
    etcetc

    trollfailz
    The end, can this topic be locked now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Yoshi dont listen to your Subscribers! Especially the guy who said this! Dont listen to him!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...162#post675162
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...430#post651430
    etcetc

    trollfailz
    hahahahahahaha
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    are you people seriously tossing around 20k as a number again?

    we have anywhere from 12-20k people on at any given time, that doesnt make it the actual population

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