Thread: Making the case for a new starting point in 7.0

Originally Posted by Conundrum

"gatekeeping", "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means".

It's not "gatekeeping" to expect people to play the story in a story based game.

"Story enthusiast's", that term says a lot more than you think it does. I'll tell you a little secret, we aren't stupid, and we know the tricks the "moar raids" cabal has used for decades. Yes, that's what you are, you aren't fooling people. This start after the current story is just code for "start at endgame". Which means you're going to start demanding more and more "endgame" content at the expense of other content, all because you guys are the loudest on the forums and tend to shout everyone else down. Then of course with more "endgame" content comes the demands that all the cool rewards only come from raiding...because "you worked for it".

So don't try to play it off as "everyone benefits" or "innocent suggestions that don't hurt anyone"

So again.

GO PLAY WOW

Dude, you couldn't even convince me to put up with 400 hours of story just to get to Reaper and Sage naturally let alone suffer through ARR in its current state just to unlock Dark Knight. The time investment is too high, regardless of how great you think the experience is. It's none of your business how I or others choose to play this game. You need to accept this.

Asking for more battle content in an rpg is not a bad thing, and it also isn't a bad thing considering this is an mmorpg. I am happy that you derive such a high degree of enjoyment from the story, but you do not get to dictate or force others to go through it if they want to get to X feature/job/raid/literally whatever the reason. I'm not asking for the option to start at endgame-

Is it really that bad if someone wants to start off as the cool-looking dark knight class instead of a "gladiator?"

Is it really that bad that someone would rather start their adventure passing through the gates of Ishgard into the castle in the sky that looks so amazing instead of Gridania, which is basically just a random forest village?

Maybe they don't care about the whole cosmic conflict between Hydaelyn and Zodiark and want to go adventure in Meracydia or Corvos in 7.0.

And so on.

Also, rewards come from literally every piece of content in the game. Trust me, casual players are not hurting for rewards when compared to endgame. A few dyeable gearsets and weapons, but that's pretty much it for the hardcore crowd. Those are some tough fights-of course they've earned a little bit of an extra reward.

As someone whose been around since ARR, I find your attitude just...perplexing. This isn't about you, it's about adding qol and convenience for new people. Goodness.