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  1. #251
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    SamSmoot's Avatar
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    Fugu Barr
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I've never seen anyone playing without a stone, but then, I never bother inspecting other player's gear.
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  2. #252
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    Xirean Summit
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    I've never seen anyone playing without a stone, but then, I never bother inspecting other player's gear.
    You don't need to inspect gear. They have the base class icon in the party menu if they are not using a job stone.
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  3. #253
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    rainichan's Avatar
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    I've never seen anyone playing without a stone, but then, I never bother inspecting other player's gear.
    As Xirean said, you don't need to. From my own post reviving this thread a few days ago:

    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    I can't believe I'm necroing my own thread here, but this:



    in Tower At Paradigm's Breach? Not cool. What was even worse was all the "get over its". It took us 20 minutes to get through the first two bosses and I bounced after the second. Please, please, make job crystals mandatory for anything above msq lv31.
    The slower damage was more than enough for me to take a closer look at the party makeup lists in that run, especially considering a lot of them were dead most of the time. I don't have the chat log here, but they were also doing it purposely because "it's fun". It's not really fun for the other 16 people, and at that point it's just intentional griefing. The occasional "ah I forgot to equip my job stone in this gear set nooo" happens, and I wouldn't call that intentional nor griefing, but considering the stance of the devs of "we don't want anyone to be inconvenienced"...

    I don't think it should be a complete lockout, but if pvp and high-end raiding can do a check to see if a job stone is equipped, so can the lower end content after a certain point. I say Brayflox just because the earlier it gets done, the better imo; Titan is a possibility, but anything after that it really isn't. Everything is mainly in my initial post about it, which does still account for the people who want to organize a full all-class runs of some content like alliance raids or whatnot (you know, going into pf and filling that way with everyone onboard with the idea) or who want to do their only-class to max level challenges.
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  4. #254
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    ICountFrom0's Avatar
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    If the devs were adamant about making LB3s Jobs only, mandatory jobs crystals should have also been thing from the time they enforced that rule.

    As far as the question goes, in the ideal world, I'd agree with you. But I'd say Stone Vigil or Castrum Meridianum would also suffice.
    As I said, you don't need to pick a point in dungeons and fiddle with the dungeon mechanics or anything.

    Just start making equipment with more then level 30 requirements NOT have classes in the list of who can equip them.

    Personally I'd make it level 50 equipment, you can't get much further if you can't equip i90 or higher.
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  5. #255
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    rainichan's Avatar
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Since someone else made a thread about this, going to bump this one as well. I've been seeing this more lately as well on places like Reddit that people have forgotten to drop their job stone on new gear sets. Again, it wouldn't be an issue if they were made mandatory to wear and it wouldn't have to embarrass new players that didn't realize it didn't migrate to their gear set, and it wouldn't have to make them incur a 30min penalty to put it into their gear set if they choose to leave, or have to wait out the 5 minutes to kick them without.

    Please make them mandatory!
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  6. #256
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    Little Sprinkles
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    It's silly this isn't mandatory after all of these years. Anyone that wants to challenge themselves should be making premades, otherwise, it's an unnecessary burden on the party. I have seen players without a job stone, but thankfully it was very few, and either they were very very new or trolls. For new players, a mandatory jobstone with a message explaining so would help them, for trolls, it would protect randoms just trying to get through their dailies of their trollery.

    Make it mandatory please, silly this hasn't been done.
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  7. #257
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    It's silly this isn't mandatory after all of these years. Anyone that wants to challenge themselves should be making premades, otherwise, it's an unnecessary burden on the party. I have seen players without a job stone, but thankfully it was very few, and either they were very very new or trolls. For new players, a mandatory jobstone with a message explaining so would help them, for trolls, it would protect randoms just trying to get through their dailies of their trollery.

    Make it mandatory please, silly this hasn't been done.
    It really is. Since Yoshida has talked about not wanting people to be upset/embarrassed or whatnot, this would curb a BUNCH of that. Will it mean "why can't I queue for this" posts on Reddit for those who skip the dialogue boxes? Probably, but I'd rather have that to help new players with than purposefully trolling or having someone have their "ah fk" moments in dungeon. No more leaving to get a 30 minute penalty or waiting out 5 minutes to kick someone without penalty! I don't see why that's a bad thing.
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  8. #258
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    LOL. It happened to me, that i did not have an equipped job stone because i did not have one. It was on my alt on Materia. Because Materia is new, you get a very potent exp buff if you start a new character there. So i made the MSQ and later in the Brayflox's Longstop dungeon, i noticed, that i am still a Marauder and not a Warrior. But after the dungeon i catched up with the Marauder to Warrior quests. xD


    Cheers
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  9. #259
    Player
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Oh, it's been a while, since there's one like this on the first page. I'll bump this myself since it has plenty of likes, but please, PLEASE, consider adding non-premade mandatory job stones in content.
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  10. #260
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    Enceladus Orbilander
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    Spriggan
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    Scholar Lv 58
    This has been wanted and not done for hours long now? 6/7 years?
    Depressing.
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