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    Chopstix's Avatar
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    Why are blue rings unique?

    Talking about the savage raid and current tome stone rings primarily.

    My particular gripe here is that there is simply no choice for the player. You HAVE to wear one of each.

    Every other piece at least has one other choice at the same ilvl. Sure there is only the raid weapon at 605, but it always comes with good stats. All other items besides the ring has 2 choices. This is very important. If able, you will naturally pick the piece that suits you better for your job.

    If u don't want to have speed stat in particular (or u want a particular amount), u can go ahead and pick the one with or without it. This is simply not true for rings and it is very annoying. The tank tome ring has skill speed on it (let's not even talk about how absolutely poorly that ring is statted and that u kind of have to wear that atrocious item).

    I play a warrior. Okay so now skill speed is forced onto me if I want to have the best gear. What if I want to play a clean 2.5 GCD? I am pigeon holed into using the crafted and pentamelded ring that is 20ilvls lower. Ugh. Yes there is a 2.4 GCD BiS that makes use of the ring. But that option is not really an option as the very fact of having to wear the tome ring eliminates other choices (such as a clean 2.5 GCD). Also fun fact, if we could wear 2 of the same rings, a 2.5 warrior set with double raid ring puts the 2.4 BiS to shame (that's how bad speed is on warrior and some other jobs).

    TLDR: Please make all current blue rings NOT unique. A finicky stat like speed should not be forced onto the player, and more importantly the player needs to be able to have a choice in the rings they want to use, just like every other item.

    Thank you, have a nice day!
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    The reason they are unique is so that you don't buy two of the other pieces by accident and then you will be much more unhappy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The reason they are unique is so that you don't buy two of the other pieces by accident and then you will be much more unhappy.
    But that is exactly what i want. Get 2 of the same.
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    Elan Centauri
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    It is probably meant to give people incentive to do both grinds for their rings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It is probably meant to give people incentive to do both grinds for their rings.
    That is a pretty lame reason. Anyone that wants good stats and raids will have to make use of tomestone gear. Raid gear is not always the best for ur job. Conversely, nothing in the world is going to make u want to raid if u dont want to raid.

    Uniqueness is just an unnecessary limitation that needs to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopstix View Post
    That is a pretty lame reason. Anyone that wants good stats and raids will have to make use of tomestone gear. Raid gear is not always the best for ur job. Conversely, nothing in the world is going to make u want to raid if u dont want to raid.

    Uniqueness is just an unnecessary limitation that needs to go.
    One ring isn't going to make or break a job's performance either, to be fair. lol I don't really care whether this is changed or not, but I also don't feel that it is necessary.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    So you have to buy crafting gear.
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Part of the reason was for glamour purposes, before the actual glamour system was added, allowing two different style rings to be equipped (it's a lame excuse I know, but there you are). As a glam enthusiast who has different rings glamoured (my wedding ring on my left hand and the Meteor Survivor ring on the other) I can appreciate the sentiment, but yeah, it's frustrating stat wise trying to build up BiS gear and having to equip a slightly lesser ring due to the 'Unique-Untradable' status of tomestone/endgame 'blue' gear.

    SE have heard the complaints though and have been slowly changing older blue/tomestone rings by removing the 'unique' status for them, however this is a slow process and the current endgame/blue rings (Moonward, Radiant, Asphodelos etc) still have the 'unique' status and so you can't equip two of the one type. It's likely they'll get to the current ones eventually, but, we'll see.
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    E'renndis Harper
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    Moogle
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Part of the reason was for glamour purposes, before the actual glamour system was added, allowing two different style rings to be equipped (it's a lame excuse I know, but there you are).
    Even if rings are not unique you still are able to equip two different rings...
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Since they've now removed unique from every non-current tomestone ring it seems fair to conclude that current rings are kept unique intentionally. While you may disagree, it probably does get enough players to try out even just the first fight of savage that SE deemed this system worth keeping.
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