Y'shtola is a Mary Sue.

[Zabuza]

Y'shtola is a character with no weaknesses, and because of this, a character I can't relate with. She is the postergirl of FFXIV, the scion you chose to put in Dissidia and sell a doll of, and yet I feel she is the most underdeveloped as a character. I then realized why. She has no vulnerabilities to speak of and even death cannot claim her.

Thancred got his development in Shadowbringers.
Urianger got his development in Endwalker.
Estinien got his development in Heavensward.
Alisaie got her development from Stormblood onward.
Alphinaud got his development through... the whole game.
G'raha Tia got his development in Shadowbringers.

Of these aforementioned scions, I know what drives them. Their worries, their fears, their goals. They feel like fleshed out human-beings. Y'shtola feels like... something else. What do we know about her other than she craves knowledge and likes to roast people? Yes, she has someone dear to her. Master Matoya, whom she trades insults back and forth with. Have we ever seen her show anything besides stoicism or sarcastic wit? Even Emet-Selch, for as sarcastic and trolly as he is, shows his emotions when it's called for. It is for this reason I won't give the writers slack on this. They are skilled enough to flesh out any character should they so choose.

I really hope SE plans to flesh out her character in an upcoming patch or expansion so that the postergirl of FFXIV can stop being the most underdeveloped scion.

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[Kolsykol]

A character not getting development doesn't make them a Mary Sue...

[Zabuza]

A character not getting development doesn't make them a Mary Sue...

A character having no weaknesses does though.

[Kolsykol]

A character having no weaknesses does though.

She's clearly weaker than us, this is a bit of a strange thing to say too when people complain a lot that she has fake died multiple times.
She failed at bringing herself out of Flow twice, failed with her shield against Zenos, failed against Emet, lies to people about her name, has to seek help from her old master even tho she's the '' master of magic '' in our group.
They also acknowledge that she's kind of an asshole in Shadowbringers too she has a major attitude problem for a while.

[Zabuza]

She's clearly weaker than us, this is a bit of a strange thing to say too when people complain a lot that she has fake died multiple times.
She failed at bringing herself out of Flow twice, failed with her shield against Zenos, failed against Emet, lies to people about her name, has to seek help from her old master even tho she's the '' master of magic '' in our group.
They also acknowledge that she's kind of an asshole in Shadowbringers too she has a major attitude problem for a while.

Yes, she's physically weaker than the frickin Warrior of Light who's the strongest being ever. I'll give you that. Still doesn't change the fact that she cannot die and emotionally/mentally is invincible. Or maybe that's going to be what the writers continue to play on? That she can't empathize with people and so acts like too much of a jerk?

It doesn't even feel like a failure when she fails the aforementioned things because she shows NO reaction to it.

[Avatre]

Yes, she's physically weaker than the frickin Warrior of Light who's the strongest being ever. I'll give you that. Still doesn't change the fact that she cannot die and emotionally/mentally is invincible. Or maybe that's going to be what the writers continue to play on? That she can't empathize with people and so acts like too much of a jerk?

It doesn't even feel like a failure when she fails the aforementioned things because she shows NO reaction to it.

There are millions of people who show no reaction when they fail, since they take it as a learning experience and move on to finding ways to improve themselves. So, why is it bad she has no reaction to failing?

[Kolsykol]

Yes, she's physically weaker than the frickin Warrior of Light who's the strongest being ever. I'll give you that. Still doesn't change the fact that she cannot die and emotionally/mentally is invincible. Or maybe that's going to be what the writers continue to play on? That she can't empathize with people and so acts like too much of a jerk?

It doesn't even feel like a failure when she fails the aforementioned things because she shows NO reaction to it.

'' Fake dying '' isn't unique to her and I don't really count the two times she used Flow.
First time Thancred went through it too and got out while she didn't.
Second time Emet was around and it made sense he'd help ( especially with EW in mind I'd say ), if he hadn't been around she would've been stuck.
I mean even with Y'shtola getting almost killed by Zenos, Alisae gets almost killed by Fordola in the same expansion.
Y'shtola spends significantly more time out of commission than Alisae does too it's basically a meme how she has just been gone for almost two expansions.

She can empathize with people she's sorta like a younger Matoya.
Matoya is an asshole a lot of the time too but it's clear she does care just because someone isn't uwu doesn't mean that they lack empathy.
Y'shtola has been underutilized by the writers and hasn't really developed much at all.
But that doesn't make her a Mary Sue which is the premise of your thread.

Just because you dislike a character or whatever doesn't mean you can just randomly throw out all of these buzzwords and have it make sense.

[Krojack]

A character having no weaknesses does though.

I see you skipped though the early parts of Stormblood.

[Zabuza]

I see you skipped though the early parts of Stormblood.

I see you skipped over the discussion and just read the original post.