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    LadySharps's Avatar
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    How many times have you stood at a plaque lately?

    I ask how many times you've stood at a plaque lately, as a pro argument for a certain number of wards to be made in the style of 'First Come, First Serve' in Ishgard, and in the future for other available areas as well. I'm not arguing that Lottery system should be taken out entirely, I think it's a decent idea. I wouldn't normally post in a forum, but it was encouraged to show our desires if we wanted FCFS areas made available.

    I've read statements that say 'real life stops us from getting the opportunity' to 'less people will be disappointed'. My opinion is as follows:

    -The argument that "real life impedes being able to get a chance at FCFS because of work, etc", is exactly the same as saying "I don't want to wake up early, because I'd rather sleep in than go to bed early the night before, and even be able to try". You are then robbing yourself of that opportunity entirely.

    -Having a 'Fair' opportunity via the Lottery system is something that is going to be implemented regardless of whether some wards are made FCFS anyway. Essentially, if you'd like the lottery system, then congratulations because you are already getting what you want. To say you don't think any FCFS areas should exist is to stand up and say "I not only want my opportunity, point a finger and say, but I also don't want you to have yours." It is a selfish statement that says you believe everyone should be confined to the choice you have deemed superior.

    -To say the lottery system is more fair, goes against what a very large group of people are actively working towards, and that is getting a house. Would you like a house? Nearly everyone in the game would say yes. Are you putting in work towards getting a house?" Nearly everyone would say No, besides a select few. In my server, and likely in yours, there is a 'housing circuit' of the same people you see at plaques every single time a house comes up, because they are actively working towards it. There are people searching for houses, who every single day go through 24 wards, 24 sub-divisions, in all 4 housing areas, and who likely do it multiple times a day. I know because I do it, therefore my chance at getting a house should be better than yours because I am actively working towards it. If you are running the same boss fight over and over again for a rare minion drop, then your chances SHOULD be better than mine-wouldn't you be frustrated if suddenly that was made a lottery we could just bid on?



    The lottery system deserves it's chance, and more so I strongly believe a First Come First Serve section deserves the exact same chance. It is not a dichotomy of either A or B, there is an option C where both opportunities coexist.
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    FCFS boils down to whose keyboard macro hits at the right time. There is no justifying giving this a chance anywhere.
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    I said it once and i'll say it again. NFT housing, let's see how serious you are about wanting that plot!
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    Azuri Aeru
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    No. From 6.1 housing should be lottery only. Always.
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    I'm open to hear what you have to say, but you've given no thought to a response besides a single sentence. Your refutation is non-existent. This is a forum for discussion is it not?
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    I haven't stood at a placard lately because all the plots are full and there's no demolition timer going.

    I have stood at placards for 8-10 hours a day a few times and found it to be a completely miserable experience thanks to people walking up and relocating after many hours of clicking.

    I don't believe the current mechanism of Lucky Click, Lucky Buy is good or healthy. If they want to make initial sales in a couple wards truly First Click, First Served with ZERO random timer, sure, why not? I may even give that a go just to see what happens. If it doesn't work, to the lottery I'll go as it's a more enjoyable experience than praying a timer ends and I'm the lucky one who clicked 0.1 second before the next person after 10 hours of clicking.
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    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Padudu Moro
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadySharps View Post
    I'm open to hear what you have to say, but you've given no thought to a response besides a single sentence. Your refutation is non-existent. This is a forum for discussion is it not?
    it's not a college class's discussion board lol people can respond how they wish

    in either case, yeah I'm not standing at a placard where the plots are full, there's a bunch of people and a bunch of them are likely using macros. It's just not worth it to me to sit there 8-10 hours clicking when you're likely going to lose to the person using the auto clicker

    I'd rather the lottery -- I'm a little concerned about people who will use alts to flood the lotto, but meh people will exploit any system. It'd still be better than sitting around and clicking on end for practically nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    I said it once and i'll say it again. NFT housing, let's see how serious you are about wanting that plot!
    LMAO yes this is the superior system, I'm down for NFT housing if we get monke nfts of the scions
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadySharps View Post
    I'm open to hear what you have to say, but you've given no thought to a response besides a single sentence. Your refutation is non-existent. This is a forum for discussion is it not?
    And you've posted a bunch of watery sentences in a thinly veiled attempt to cover the only real intent of your argument.

    "I WANT A HOUSE AND I DESERVE IT MORE!"

    And look, I respect that opinion. I also put myself and my own interests above any other player. But trying to present that as some "this is the fairer system" argument is just lame.
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    Do you then disagree that the systems can co-exist?
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Not since the newest wards for Shirogane were released...stood at a large, wondered if I had enough money for it, was short 8mil, ran to a mid, and got that. I don't stand at placards trying to get a house. I'll enter the lottery for a house, depending on what island sanctuary is like, either for myself or my FC. Otherwise, I don't bother standing at placards
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