Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Deceptus]

This is effectively what the lead designer of this game told Healers in the latest live letter.

Consider if he had said that about your role (tank / dps) for a second and how you would feel.

Forget the leveling experience, it doesn't matter.

Forget dungeons up to 90, they don't matter.

Forget normal raids, EX's, and Savage, they don't matter.

If you want your job to be engaging, play Ultimate, the hardest content in the game that only a few percentage of actual players do.

Engagement shouldn't be either 0% or 100%. It shouldn't be either braindead easy in 95% of content or pull your hair out in the hardest thing the game offers.

The same basic damage rotation from level 4 to level 90 (A 30s dot and a filler spell) is not acceptable gameplay or game design.

Edit:

Yoshi-P's statement is about as tone deaf as the Lead Designer of WoW flat out saying they didn't want players playing a certain DPS spec. (Language warning)

Background: Instead of properly balancing a certain DPS spec, the WoW devs nuked it to the ground so people would play other things.

Sound familiar?

[Skiros]

If you want more engaging content on any job other than BLM, go play Ultimate.

Job design across everything has been gutted.

[MisterNublet]

Job design across everything has been gutted.

That is also a problem.

But the healer role's dps rotation being limited to one DD and one DoT is inexcusable. If I was a game developer, I'd be embarrassed to think that is engaging gameplay.

[Deceptus]

That is also a problem.

But the healer role's dps rotation being limited to one DD and one DoT is inexcusable..

From level 4 to lvl 90.

[AlexionSkyllark]

That is also a problem.

But the healer role's dps rotation being limited to one DD and one DoT is inexcusable. If I was a game developer, I'd be embarrassed to think that is engaging gameplay.

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

[HyoMinPark]

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

They’ve already said that they are not upping healing requirements or the amount of damage healers have to heal. We’ve already tried asking for this. Multiple times. Over the last 4-6 years. It didn’t work. So we’re asking for more engaging DPS because we spend most of our time doing that. And it isn’t going to change any time soon.

The developers are the ones who made healer DPS necessary by the way. Not only because healers do so much personal damage (and have since late HW/early SB), but also because they don’t make healers heal. And they make combat in this game extremely damage focused by removing every other aspect of it that was mildly interesting. Or they give every job and their mother healing abilities and/or mitigation that makes healing even more unnecessary. Instead of, maybe, giving this utility to the healers. “But that would be too difficult for the baby healers”, so we can’t have that.

But sure, continue to blame the whining Green DPS players for what the developers actively did. I am so sick of seeing this kind of attitude.

[Mimilu]

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

As you said in your first post ever on the forums, this is XIV, not WoW. Healers DPS here. >w>

[Acece]

As you said in your first post ever on the forums, this is XIV, not WoW. Healers DPS here. >w>

Good healers in wow also dps lol. Healer dps in almost every mmo now.

[Rilifane]

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

That's a lot of opinion for alarmingly little knowledge.
The devs said no. For roughly 5 years. After getting asked again and again. By healers.
Increasing the healing requirement across the board but especially for endgame content was actually the first thing healer mains asked for because they didn't like spending the vast majority of their time with one 30s dot and one nuke.
They went on record saying that it will never happen because it would drive away the baby healers, make healing less accessible, force too much responsibility on healers and increase the chance of wipes and abandoned duties because the healing requirement couldn't be met. Even in Savage fights the only heal checks are usually one of the last mechanics - and the first that gets skipped.
The amount of healing required to keep a somewhat competent healer engaged would make the forums explode with complaints with how impossible content became.
The game is extremely dps-focused because the devs want it like that not because a bunch of "whiners" or filthy green dps that secretly want to play dps but prefer healer queue times asked for it.

But keep blaming us for the state of healers when you have absolutely no idea about the stance of the devs OR the healer community.
Or may, just maybe, do some research.

[Soxxx]

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

A lot of people didn't like this take but I think you're totally on the right track, we became HEALers for a reason. The problem is, in my eyes, there's two options going forward: Either give us healers more DPS abilities, or give us a reason to actually use our healing abilities (more outgoing damage).

Doing neither leaves us in an absolutely unacceptable state where healers do neither: 70-90% of any content I don't have to look up guides for consists of dodging AoEs and pressing my one, single AoE button over and over like a bot, even doing roulettes with total randoms. I'm perfectly happy with either, extremely happy with both. But doing neither outright makes healer as a role a horrible experience to play, and totally invalidates its reason to even exist.