Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Zadood]

Just like how non-crab crustaceans will eventually evolved into a crab-like creature.

All non-healer DPS will eventually evolved into a healer-like DPS.

Tanks is now currently experiencing Tank version of "carcinization", with the obvious symptoms being Tanks now unanimously splitted into 2 type of Tanks,

One type of Tanks where it's focus DPS over sustain, such as DRK and GNB.

Another type of Tanks where it's focus sustain over DPS, such as WAR and PLD.

And DPS class in general is experiencing a lot streamlined rotation.

[Deceptus]

Anybody’s excited to hear anything along the line of “Healings are made easier in first tier to ease more players into savage difficulty”-kind of excuse to not give us fights that actually requires us to press our shiny healy buttons regularly?

Also Holy Carp we’ve reached 400 pages lol.

The fact that this thread has been going strong for 2 years now shows just how bad the problem is in this game. People are constantly chiming in with their experiences.

Personally? I give up. My sub ends in 4 more days and I'm not renewing.

I'm done supporting a game where the job design devs, to me, seem like they have no idea how to properly design the healing role or much less have an overall vision they are trying to obtain.

10 years was a good run. I'm out. Best of luck to anyone going into Dawntrail. I hope it's everything you wanted it to be. There'll be a large house opening up in ~45-60 days from now on Behemoth.

[Niroken]

Personally, I like the idea of certain tanks and DPS being able to bring healing to the party as a form of utility that can support the healers, but in order for that to feel healthy, that healing can't be frequent or effective enough to outright replace the healers, but that's an easy line to cross in FFXIV because of a number of reasons. We don't take damage very often in most content, first of all, so there's barely any pressure a non-healer can actually take off the healer's shoulders, and even when we do take damage, the healers are so ridiculously powerful that you need the utility healing to be near that level in order for it to provide enough sustain to help the healer conserve resources.

I feel that lowering the massive amount of healing output that healers provide would allow tanks and support DPS to give out either small amount of damage reduction or increased healing received in replacement of a large amount of personal/party healing that tanks have. That way it would bring utility and help with the overall healing during intense moments but also make it so that tanks can't solo bosses or do Ultimate level content without an entire role.

[Aravell]

I'm done supporting a game where the job design devs, to me, seem like they have no idea how to properly design the healing role or much less have an overall vision they are trying to obtain.

10 years was a good run. I'm out. Best of luck to anyone going into Dawntrail. I hope it's everything you wanted it to be. There'll be a large house opening up in ~45-60 days from now on Behemoth.

While I'm personally not quitting outright since I still really enjoy high ranking PvP, I'll definitely be dropping healers entirely in PvE content. If their darned metrics are so important to them, they can consider me a -1 from the healer role data.

[Valence]

If there wasnt high ranking pvp I would be in severe depression myself, and I don't even main healer.

[currentlemon]

The fact that this thread has been going strong for 2 years now shows just how bad the problem is in this game. People are constantly chiming in with their experiences.

Personally? I give up. My sub ends in 4 more days and I'm not renewing.

I'm done supporting a game where the job design devs, to me, seem like they have no idea how to properly design the healing role or much less have an overall vision they are trying to obtain.

10 years was a good run. I'm out. Best of luck to anyone going into Dawntrail. I hope it's everything you wanted it to be. There'll be a large house opening up in ~45-60 days from now on Behemoth.

God Bless and Good Luck to you. You fought the good fight. Here's hoping that we can continue this thread by the time you leave the game for good.

Not FF related, but if you are looking for a game with great healer gameplay, play Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous (Pillars of Eternity is a good substitute too). Wrath of the Righteous is a single player game, but a dang good one. Being an Angel Cleric is one of the best experiences as a Healer that I've ever had in a game, even if I did not finish it yet. The game will receive it's last batch of DLC next month, so now is a good time to try it out.

[Rekh]

God Bless and Good Luck to you. You fought the good fight. Here's hoping that we can continue this thread by the time you leave the game for good.

Not FF related, but if you are looking for a game with great healer gameplay, play Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous (Pillars of Eternity is a good substitute too). Wrath of the Righteous is a single player game, but a dang good one. Being an Angel Cleric is one of the best experiences as a Healer that I've ever had in a game, even if I did not finish it yet. The game will receive it's last batch of DLC next month, so now is a good time to try it out.

On that note, when it comes to healing, I love me some Guild wars 2.

[ForteNightshade]

While I'm personally not quitting outright since I still really enjoy high ranking PvP, I'll definitely be dropping healers entirely in PvE content. If their darned metrics are so important to them, they can consider me a -1 from the healer role data.

I'm not yet ready to pack it in as I still enjoy raiding and the push for week 1 but I won't deny Endwalker pushed me the closest I've ever been to unsubbing. Dawntrail needs to be an absolute banger or it'll definitely be something I reconsider a year or so from now.

[Aravell]

I'm not yet ready to pack it in as I still enjoy raiding and the push for week 1 but I won't deny Endwalker pushed me the closest I've ever been to unsubbing. Dawntrail needs to be an absolute banger or it'll definitely be something I reconsider a year or so from now.

While I do enjoy the rush of week 1 healing because I enjoy building a healing cooldown spreadsheet for each fight, I've come to the conclusion that joining a group to have fun for 1 week just to be bored for 7 more weeks in reclears is just not worth it unless the group itself is full of fun people, but it's the group that's fun at that point, not the job gameplay or the content.

Endwalker was a wake up call for every other role as to how boring their gameplay could become, but as a healer main, I've been burned out since ShB. I think most of us who mained healer for a long time won't bother with another 2.5 years of this job design and we'll mostly be swapping off healer or quitting raiding (or the game) entirely.

[Rozeee]

While I do enjoy the rush of week 1 healing because I enjoy building a healing cooldown spreadsheet for each fight, I've come to the conclusion that joining a group to have fun for 1 week just to be bored for 7 more weeks in reclears is just not worth it unless the group itself is full of fun people, but it's the group that's fun at that point, not the job gameplay or the content.

Endwalker was a wake up call for every other role as to how boring their gameplay could become, but as a healer main, I've been burned out since ShB. I think most of us who mained healer for a long time won't bother with another 2.5 years of this job design and we'll mostly be swapping off healer or quitting raiding (or the game) entirely.

At this point my sub hinges on the BLM change being good or PCT being fun. 8.0 can't come soon enough.