Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Maltothoris]

midas and gordias nearly killed the raid scene, so no, prob best to notdo that again.

But hardly anyway praises the new fights with a few exceptions for healing. Those fights kept you on your toes and didn't just wipe the party when you fail a single mechanic.

[IDontPetLalas]

I don't normally post just to bump threads however given all of the graphics threads..

Happy Monday everyone!

[Maltothoris]

Most certainly in 2 weeks time or when the media tour embargo is lifted, this thread will probably come to the forefront again but still just keeping back up here in the midst of all the benchmark threads.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I don't think I have the heart in me to go on with this healer salt after knowing what had befallen to my character after seeing the benchmark version lol. That's probably one of the few last vestiges of things that I still genuinely enjoy from the game.

[Deceptus]

^to be fair while it’s the same 15 people circling the same topics the healer forums have mostly condensed into about 3 megathreads, we don’t really bother to make new threads anymore

I used to frequent the healer forums but gave up. CBU3 isn't going to change and they simply don't care about that particular forum or the healers in general IMHO.

[ty_taurus]

I used to frequent the healer forums but gave up. CBU3 isn't going to change and they simply don't care about that particular forum or the healers in general IMHO.

Maybe what we need is the general discussion page to get flooded with 70 different healer threads. "Why removing Miasma and Shadowflare on Scholar was a mistake." "SE doesn't know what to do with Scholar" "Selene should never have been removed" "Scholar should still have Miasma and Miasma II" "Scholar suffers from the same DPS problems as the other healers" "Scholar is so different from Arcanist that unlocking it is jarring" "Scholar has too much regen power for a barrier healer" "Scholar's Energy Drain needs a buff" etc etc... Be as insufferable as humanly possible.

[Supersnow845]

Maybe what we need is the general discussion page to get flooded with 70 different healer threads. "Why removing Miasma and Shadowflare on Scholar was a mistake." "SE doesn't know what to do with Scholar" "Selene should never have been removed" "Scholar should still have Miasma and Miasma II" "Scholar suffers from the same DPS problems as the other healers" "Scholar is so different from Arcanist that unlocking it is jarring" "Scholar has too much regen power for a barrier healer" "Scholar's Energy Drain needs a buff" etc etc... Be as insufferable as humanly possible.

All that does is just turn the rest of the forums against us because while anyone else is free to make any topic about anything else as soon as healers get involved we are just told to go back to the healer forum

[currentlemon]

How long has it been since I last posted here? 17 months? 18? I was so disgruntled with the direction of the gameplay (mostly on healers) that I quit. Now, I'm back with DT on the way.

EW wasn't very good when it game to it's overall gameplay and I'm hoping DT changes things a bit. I did hear that Yoshi-P that changes are to be made with the game's encounters (I believe he even admitted that the encounter design have gone a bit stale in the PAX conference last month) which is a good thing if they keep to their promise.

However, I won't be too surprised or get too upset if little to no changes are to be made with healers. Don't get me wrong, the devs do listen to criticisms of their game and change is coming to at least one job (AST), but I haven't really heard much when it comes to addressing the criticism of their gameplay (or overall direction of their gameplay).

Hominization has negatively effected this game. And it's not just healers either (still remember the outrage when SAM players lost Kaiten). All that I have left now is that I pray to God that something will be done.

Please I just want ONE fun healer job that I can play with!! I hope to God that the AST rework will be worth the wait. Or some quality changes be made to the other healers.

Edit: On an unrelated note, if any healer here is currently disgruntled with the healer roles at this time and want to play something else, I highly recommend Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous or Pillars of Eternity. Baldur's Gate 3 has some decent support mechanics as well, though it depends on the class that you pick.

[ty_taurus]

All that does is just turn the rest of the forums against us because while anyone else is free to make any topic about anything else as soon as healers get involved we are just told to go back to the healer forum

I was being facetious. But being ignored for so many years does give me the urge to want to be insufferable in some capacity, though the forums really isn't an effective place to do that as we see. What would really help would be more people outright refusing to play the healer role, no exceptions. Create an actual disturbance that makes queue times terrible for DPS as well as tanks to the point where SE needs to address it in some way. But there just aren't enough players who care about the combat system to do something like that.

[Aravell]

I was being facetious. But being ignored for so many years does give me the urge to want to be insufferable in some capacity, though the forums really isn't an effective place to do that as we see. What would really help would be more people outright refusing to play the healer role, no exceptions. Create an actual disturbance that makes queue times terrible for DPS as well as tanks to the point where SE needs to address it in some way. But there just aren't enough players who care about the combat system to do something like that.

Anyone who hates the current state of the healer role have almost definitely already stopped queueing into roulettes as a healer and are almost exclusively only playing healer for friends or in high-end content, but that doesn't even matter in the face of all the people who enjoy playing a curebot in roulettes. They've already managed to make healing nigh unfailable, so anyone can just queue in as a healer and do just fine, so the numbers in roulettes will never actually dry up.

There's nothing more that can be done to make the dev team care. If they still insist on the current direction, there's nothing that can be done. Even the SAM mains can't get Kaiten to come back, and DPS jobs are actually paid attention to by the dev team. (Or maybe the dev team only cares about WAR and BLM)