Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

30s DoTs really makes me checks out mentally. I had a soft spot for WHM in Eureka back in ShB solely because their Aero II was still a 18s DoT. That too, is now gone and also became the butt of everyone's joke when they homogenize it to 30s and forgot to upgrade the potency lmao. Just one of the instances that shows how disconnected they are.

[rawker]

I might even argue for a shorter dot duration, up to 15s max. Seeing how the average human attention span is on a steady decline, any dot outside of 3 gcd's worth of filler may be completely forgotten.

[Naple]

Dots could use a more visible (or audible) way of telling its duration.

[Absurdity]

Dots could use a more visible (or audible) way of telling its duration.

That's an entirely separate discussion. The UI could use so many upgrades, especially buff/debuff visibility customization since the devs have been increasingly fond of spamming each player with like 4 different debuffs that need to be resolved perfectly.

[Deceptus]

That's an entirely separate discussion. The UI could use so many upgrades, especially buff/debuff visibility customization since the devs have been increasingly fond of spamming each player with like 4 different debuffs that need to be resolved perfectly.

In my dream UI I'd be able to see my dots, and any and EVERY single debuff on the boss.

Instead of the current model:

Everything, everyone puts on (so much clutter)

Or just mine.

Wouldn’t it make more sense then to just removing revives altogether? If anyone fails, the party wipes. If only the healer can provide the party with endless resets, then there’s a lot of social pressure on them to be executing everything correctly. The DPS and even the tank can make as many mistakes as they want, but the healer can’t afford to do so. I think it’s important to empower each role with responsibility that only they can perform, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that one of those responsibilities is to never make a mistake when everyone else is allowed to. Either let the healers be allowed to make mistakes, or don’t allow anyone to make mistakes.

And I don’t think having to revive a player absolves their mistakes of consequence anyway. There are more consequences than just failure.

Could always go the Bozja Route: 2 deaths and you're unraisable. Might make it 3 for reasons. But you're basically useless with the 50% Brink of Death debuff anyway.

[ForsakenRoe]

I might even argue for a shorter dot duration, up to 15s max. Seeing how the average human attention span is on a steady decline, any dot outside of 3 gcd's worth of filler may be completely forgotten.

WHM: Aero>Dia series at 12s
SCH: Bio series at 30s, Miasma series at 24s (with a cast time), Shadowflare ground AOE at 15s
AST: None, by deleting Combust to make room for a properly fleshed out card system
SGE: E.Dosis at 30s, same as it is now

..is how I'd do it. At least, in very simplified terms, there's more changes that I'd do alongside those to adjust level-up skill acquisition pacing, potency upgrade timings, traits to allow certain 'useless' skills to be consolidated and make better use of hotbar space, etc.

In my dream UI I'd be able to see my dots, and any and EVERY single debuff on the boss.

I've heard there's a non-TOS compliant method to having your DOTs, and ONLY your DOTs, show up next to each enemy in the Emnity List (the little thing with the coloured shapes to show your aggro on each mob). Sure would be nice if SE were to get angry about people using that on stream, and add it to the game in the very next patch, hint hint

[rawker]

What we currently have at the moment is enough, in my opinion. When all you do is press 1 button to do dps, it is very easy to lose track of the dot timer. 2 solutions can be done: one of it is to lower the duration to make it less prone to getting forgotten or implement a more meaningful and interesting combination of healing and dps rotation that will naturally flow with refreshing the dot.

But let's be practical here, lowering the duration is the easier approach.

[Deceptus]

What we currently have at the moment is enough, in my opinion. When all you do is press 1 button to do dps, it is very easy to lose track of the dot timer. 2 solutions can be done: one of it is to lower the duration to make it less prone to getting forgotten or implement a more meaningful and interesting combination of healing and dps rotation that will naturally flow with refreshing the dot.

But let's be practical here, lowering the duration is the easier approach.

It's easier to do also when the DoT is only double the potency of a single filler spell.

Now if it was 3x, 4x, or 5x that dot would be MUCH more impactful if you missed it.

[ty_taurus]

It's easier to do also when the DoT is only double the potency of a single filler spell.

Now if it was 3x, 4x, or 5x that dot would be MUCH more impactful if you missed it.

True, but in order to miss a DOT, you need to not apply it for its entire durations worth of time. If you miss the timing by 1 GCD, you only lose one tic, rather than the entire potency’s worth unlike your basic attack spell which you lose 100% of every time you don’t cast anything to move or cast a GCD heal instead.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Speaking of extending and reducing timers, I find it ironic that they're only willing to do this to regen timers. Wasn't old Regen actions used to have longer timer but have their potency spread across wider period of time vs today's short but stronger ticks? lol