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  1. #1801
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    Stanazolol's Avatar
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    Legit Stanazolol
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thoosa View Post
    It kinda feels like they’re working in a direction where the holy trinity is optional (in the majority of content). You can already clear lots of normal content without a healer due to the fact that tanks have huge healing abilities and cds, plus a number of dps roles have party wide aoe healing abilities.

    They don’t seem capable of creating a healing role that is inbetween “super stressful - I cant handle the incoming damage, and I’m getting toxicity because people are dying” (which is wow M+) and “I’m barely doing any healing at all, and my dps rotation is one button boredom, so I might as well play dps and chuck out and aoe heal occasionally”.
    I never really see anyone being toxic to the healer though. If people die, its usually the tank that gets blamed for pulling too big, even though big pulls are supposed to be the norm.
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  2. #1802
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    Pepper Oni
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    And the only reason big pulls are the norm is because that's how much it takes for the game to actually have to use your cooldowns.
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  3. #1803
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    And the only reason big pulls are the norm is because that's how much it takes for the game to actually have to use your cooldowns.
    At this point they are double downing on wall to wall pulls and grandiose looking AoEs in 8/24 man content. It feels like the anime fighter of MMOs, lol.
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  4. #1804
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    I'm only playing single-players/ co-ops lately, I'm looking for another MMO and I'm ready to jump ship any time and I'm netflixing and chill while playing healer - rare is it is nowadays.
    Sounds like I'm doing everything right c:

    But perhaps you need to chill a bit if this thread irks you so much that you have to come in and tell everyone that they need to chill? Should we kiss you on the forehead? I'd even lift our pint-sized healers up to reach it.
    The former most profitable Final Fantasy game, Final Fantasy XI, has a 14 day trial, is a pain in the ass to install and setup, but is pretty fun when you get it working. I hear Bahamut is a good server to start out on too.
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  5. #1805
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    All the more reason to not play healer anymore. If you still play healer then you're part of the problem at this point. Things will only change when nobody plays healer anymore. If you don't want to spend your free time mashing 1 button then don't. They know you don't want to, they don't care because you're playing it anyway.
    Except many of us think it's fine and have no problem with it. I love being a healer right now. And I press far, far, far more than one button
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  6. #1806
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Except many of us think it's fine and have no problem with it. I love being a healer right now. And I press far, far, far more than one button
    Do you actually do Savage on healers?
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  7. #1807
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Do you actually do Savage on healers?
    Don't even need to do Savage.
    Duty Finder Queue times have gotten worse due to lack of healers so things clearly aren't fine with healers, despite what people want to believe about the role. Sure, Savage PFs fill quickly with healers, that's the only content that healing can even be remotely entertaining in but the other 99% of content might as well not exist for healers at all.
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    Last edited by Silver-Strider; 07-14-2022 at 05:57 AM.

  8. #1808
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Don't even need to do Savage.
    Duty Finder Queue times have gotten worse due to lack of healers so things clearly aren't fine with healers, despite what people want to believe about the role. Sure, Savage PFs fill quickly with healers, that's the only content that healing can even be remotely entertaining in but the other 99% of content mind as well not exist for healers at all.
    It's the only content I still play on healer. Everything else? Nah. I'd rather sit in a queue for 40min and do something lese until it pops than queue on healer. And I think a lot of veteran healers went the same route. They're still playing healer but only for their static/ PF and switch to something fun once done with raiding. Even some of my friends that are firmly in the very casual camp started doing it because they felt they were never really needed and just on "in case something bad happens" standby so they play dps in DF now.
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  9. #1809
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Don't even need to do Savage.
    Duty Finder Queue times have gotten worse due to lack of healers so things clearly aren't fine with healers, despite what people want to believe about the role. Sure, Savage PFs fill quickly with healers, that's the only content that healing can even be remotely entertaining in but the other 99% of content mind as well not exist for healers at all.
    I completely agree, I just always find myself wonder when someone says "tons of people love it, i'm having a blast" if they actually do any of the harder content on these jobs, because comments like "i hit more than 1 button" really just says to me "I have no clue how to play healers correctly in this game." Even in Savage a majority of what we hit is literally 1 button, I did a P1S reclear for gear recently where 80% of my casts were 3 buttons, Broil, Bio and Energy Drain - and this wasn't some highly optimized static either, it was a PF group of randoms. I really, REALLY doubt that anyone who actually plays these jobs correctly would want to defend the garbage design of getting better meaning you spam your 1 key more. Everyone I know, casual or "hardcore" says that healers are the low point of job design within XIV at the moment. Even my friends who raid solely on healers say that the current design is boring and healers need more. Where are these "tons of people" in game? If tons of people loved it, it wouldn't be instant queue anytime you do roulettes. People should be clamouring to play healers since they're a ton of fun, right?
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  10. #1810
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Except many of us think it's fine and have no problem with it. I love being a healer right now. And I press far, far, far more than one button
    People who don't main healers most often have uninformed opinions which should be disregarded when SE is making vital decisions about healer roles. The reason is simple. This type of player cannot clear content with min item level, the way the devs have designed the encounter to be cleared when new. If you find yourself pressing far more buttons than one, your nuke, then you are inevitably going to run into enrage. The content is not designed for healers to play silly and be pressing healing GCDs willy-nilly. You cannot clear content, you cannot make progress playing a healer like that.
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