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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    I pretty much leveled my healers only in PVP because it was just agony and/or anxiety playing them in any other kind of content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    I pretty much leveled my healers only in PVP because it was just agony and/or anxiety playing them in any other kind of content.
    Healer anxiety? I've always wondered what makes players anxious about healing. Is it the failure to keep party alive? Personally I fall asleep, especially at lower level dungeons lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    Healer anxiety? I've always wondered what makes players anxious about healing. Is it the failure to keep party alive? Personally I fall asleep, especially at lower level dungeons lol
    Real talk, as a career coward dps player, it's cause of 2 things:

    Focusing on the enemy health bar as a dps = "if the hp hits zero yay! now can you do it faster? >:] It's the land of unlimited improvement!" vs focusing on teammate's healthbar = "IF IT EMPTIES THAT'S IT, YOU FAILED! TRY SUCKING LESS. OH? IT'S FULL? THAT'S WASTEFUL"

    and the fact that as a dps, yes if you suck at your job the run takes a bit longer, but that's less disruptive than sucking as a healer and having someone else's play interrupted because of your personal shortcomings.

    Not to mention the fact that the dps part of healing is so boring that I full on zone out at times which ironically makes it harder to pay attention to the healing side @_@
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    ~sigh~

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    Ixa X'phele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Not to mention the fact that the dps part of healing is so boring that I full on zone out at times which ironically makes it harder to pay attention to the healing side @_@
    This is why I don't want to play healers in casual content at all - my brain turns into mush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    Healer anxiety? I've always wondered what makes players anxious about healing. Is it the failure to keep party alive? Personally I fall asleep, especially at lower level dungeons lol
    Pretty much, yeah. The moment a tank starts wall-to-wall pulling (which is pretty much all of them) it always ends in disaster because I can't keep up, forcing them to do smaller pulls after the eventual wipe, and I just *know* them and both DPS are blaming me for not making the dungeon a successful speedrun. With raids, I'm having to be mindful of where my entire group is at all times because not everyone feels inclined to stay close enough for AOE heals, or they want to be miles away for single heals, and when someone (or several someones) inevitably die, yep, that's my fault too because it's not really right to be expecting the other healer to make up for my shortcomings.

    In PVP, nobody honestly expects to see heals coming their way, and probably even thinks its a waste of time when the key to winning is casting spells that make the other people fall down, not make yours fall up.

    I'm not much inclined to tank outside of PVP either, because again, it's just kind of awkward and stressful to deal with in other content whereas in PVP you're just a "blue DPS" along with the "green DPS".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Pretty much, yeah. The moment a tank starts wall-to-wall pulling (which is pretty much all of them) it always ends in disaster because I can't keep up, forcing them to do smaller pulls after the eventual wipe, and I just *know* them and both DPS are blaming me for not making the dungeon a successful speedrun. With raids, I'm having to be mindful of where my entire group is at all times because not everyone feels inclined to stay close enough for AOE heals, or they want to be miles away for single heals, and when someone (or several someones) inevitably die, yep, that's my fault too because it's not really right to be expecting the other healer to make up for my shortcomings.

    In PVP, nobody honestly expects to see heals coming their way, and probably even thinks its a waste of time when the key to winning is casting spells that make the other people fall down, not make yours fall up.

    I'm not much inclined to tank outside of PVP either, because again, it's just kind of awkward and stressful to deal with in other content whereas in PVP you're just a "blue DPS" along with the "green DPS".
    Genuinely on the raid front if someone is staying far enough away that they arent getting healed by your AOE heals that is 100% their fault and sometimes it’s worth them dying so that they can learn what an AOE heal is

    It sounds like you aren’t actually a bad healer you just instinctively internalise all problems as being your fault and assume everyone is judging you. Honestly most people really don’t mind if a wipe happen, just keep trying, learn new uses for your heals and try different healers, sometimes it just needs a little part to click in your brain then you realise how strong they are and how easy dungeons are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Genuinely on the raid front if someone is staying far enough away that they arent getting healed by your AOE heals that is 100% their fault and sometimes it’s worth them dying so that they can learn what an AOE heal is

    It sounds like you aren’t actually a bad healer you just instinctively internalise all problems as being your fault and assume everyone is judging you. Honestly most people really don’t mind if a wipe happen, just keep trying, learn new uses for your heals and try different healers, sometimes it just needs a little part to click in your brain then you realise how strong they are and how easy dungeons are
    It honestly takes one person to internalize such issues in the moment. In Aion, when I failed to keep the group healed, I was called "the worst healer on the server" when everyone disbanded. It kinda made me question whether playing Cleric (something like a WHM) was the right choice and whether I should re-roll class. I went against that idea because I loved healing and just needed practice.

    In ShB during Eden's Verse normal raids, I just finished the MSQ and lost my sprout icon, I was AST in nocturnal stance, switching to diurnal after the first wipe because I noticed my co-healer wasn't healing at all. One of the tanks started to talk crap about me because "you should never be in diurnal with a whm in group" and basically called me a failure and harassed me during the entire second pull.

    Despite the homogenization of healers, I still play them, still play AST because of its "busy" card system that keeps my dopamine high.
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    It honestly takes one person to internalize such issues in the moment. In Aion, when I failed to keep the group healed, I was called "the worst healer on the server" when everyone disbanded. It kinda made me question whether playing Cleric (something like a WHM) was the right choice and whether I should re-roll class. I went against that idea because I loved healing and just needed practice.

    In ShB during Eden's Verse normal raids, I just finished the MSQ and lost my sprout icon, I was AST in nocturnal stance, switching to diurnal after the first wipe because I noticed my co-healer wasn't healing at all. One of the tanks started to talk crap about me because "you should never be in diurnal with a whm in group" and basically called me a failure and harassed me during the entire second pull.

    Despite the homogenization of healers, I still play them, still play AST because of its "busy" card system that keeps my dopamine high.
    That tool that told you not to be in Diurnal was wrong FYI. Diurnal was much stronger than Nocturnal because AST had synergy with its regens but none with its barriers. And Barriers aren’t a requirement for any content. Even now, mitigation is what matters more. Barriers aren’t as effective, through they do help. Even with a WHM you were better off in Diurnal. Not that Nocturnal was useless, but calling out an AST for being in Diurnal just tells you that you were grouped with a clown.
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