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  1. #1811
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    SieyaM's Avatar
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Eh, I've been having a pretty good time playing AST lately for my roulettes and things, but that is after not playing a healer at all for over a year. It's probably just the change of pace right now that is keeping me engaged, although I don't know if it is the tank or me but some of these dungeon pulls I have to really run through my abilities to keep them alive.
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  2. #1812
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Eh, I've been having a pretty good time playing AST lately for my roulettes and things, but that is after not playing a healer at all for over a year. It's probably just the change of pace right now that is keeping me engaged, although I don't know if it is the tank or me but some of these dungeon pulls I have to really run through my abilities to keep them alive.
    That's most likely the Tank, assuming you're properly geared yourself.
    I've had runs with all kinds of Tanks. I've had runs where Kardia alone was able to keep the Tank alive with me just mindlessly throwing out Addersgal for resources and other times I'm being bleed drier than the Sahara.
    I've had WAR tanks die despite Recit+Excog, Whispering Dawn, Sacred Soil and Aetherpact all going and I've had DRK Tanks that had a hard time getting below 50%.
    The difference in player skill+gear can really make healing go either way.
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  3. #1813
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    Lunalepsy's Avatar
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I don't do raids, so...
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  4. #1814
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    I completely agree, I just always find myself wonder when someone says "tons of people love it, i'm having a blast" if they actually do any of the harder content on these jobs, because comments like "i hit more than 1 button" really just says to me "I have no clue how to play healers correctly in this game." Even in Savage a majority of what we hit is literally 1 button, I did a P1S reclear for gear recently where 80% of my casts were 3 buttons, Broil, Bio and Energy Drain - and this wasn't some highly optimized static either, it was a PF group of randoms. I really, REALLY doubt that anyone who actually plays these jobs correctly would want to defend the garbage design of getting better meaning you spam your 1 key more. Everyone I know, casual or "hardcore" says that healers are the low point of job design within XIV at the moment. Even my friends who raid solely on healers say that the current design is boring and healers need more. Where are these "tons of people" in game? If tons of people loved it, it wouldn't be instant queue anytime you do roulettes. People should be clamouring to play healers since they're a ton of fun, right?
    It's mean, it's often unproductive and results in derailing the whole conversation when it comes up, and it flirts with rulebreaking to talk about it anyway so I don't post about it in forum arguments. Yes yes I know there are a lot of factors that contribute to ~things~, so going into specifics never helps these sorts of threads.

    But on my own, outside of forum posting? I have a game I play where I see someone Really Enjoying How Fun And Well Designed Healers In The FF14 Greatest Of All Healer Design MMOs. I look at their main character's name, and play "spot the blank Savage and guess what the Aglaia color is", in a special place that doesn't exist, and let me tell you I've yet to be wrong.

    Take that information however you will.
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  5. #1815
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Except many of us think it's fine and have no problem with it. I love being a healer right now. And I press far, far, far more than one button
    That’s great. I’m happy for you and those many of you—however many they actually amount for…— for truly enjoying the gameplay. These folks in here? Clearly don’t feel the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    It's the only content I still play on healer. Everything else? Nah. I'd rather sit in a queue for 40min and do something lese until it pops than queue on healer. And I think a lot of veteran healers went the same route. They're still playing healer but only for their static/ PF and switch to something fun once done with raiding. Even some of my friends that are firmly in the very casual camp started doing it because they felt they were never really needed and just on "in case something bad happens" standby so they play dps in DF now.
    I’d very much do the same.. except I couldn’t bring myself to. It’s a bit of a weird kind of paradox: when you love the role so much you just can’t move on without it despite all the glaring drawbacks. And then there’s this vague sense of bitterness when coming across (a) random healer who’s evidently had played the role for hundred of hours but is doing every prime example of utter, total bad healing practices. You know.. ”My favorite MMO role had been reduced to dust for these folks..???”-feel.

    On top of that, I get burnt out real quick with any other roles. /shrug
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 07-14-2022 at 12:16 PM. Reason: Meh, not worth it.

    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  6. #1816
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    ASkellington's Avatar
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    I stopped having fun when my role became boring to play so I cancelled my sub and went back to ESO. That game is a hot mess but at least healing is engaging.
    I'm glad you can have fun with ESO's healing. I hate it.

    Honestly at this point I think all MMOs and healing is just straight up dying. ESO? Drove me away before the... we'll call it talent changes and haven't gotten me back since. It doesn't help that the healer I want to play was still underclassed.

    GW2? Same issues with balancing that made me leave the game over 6 years ago.

    WoW? Even before the mess with Activision I couldn't go back (why oh why did you get rid of TOTEMS)

    Here? I wish I came in during SB. I'd have had a ball. Actually, no. I change my mind. No I don't. If I played during SB I'd hate the game more than I do now.

    Where else is there to go?
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  7. #1817
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    I'm glad you can have fun with ESO's healing. I hate it.
    Don't get me wrong here. I honestly hate how imbalanced ESO is in terms of their class/skill design, with some classes clearly favoring specific playstyles, nor I'm not a fan of their "smart" targeting either and trying to manually aim some skills has always been problematic but at least it gives me more to think about than FFXIV healers and I get the Druid Healer that FFXIV teased me with for years only to blue ball me in ShB with Glare mage.
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    Last edited by Silver-Strider; 07-14-2022 at 10:20 PM.

  8. #1818
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    ASkellington's Avatar
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Don't get me wrong here. I honestly hate how imbalanced ESO is in terms of their class/skill design, with some classes clearly favoring specific playstyles nor I'm not a fan of their "smart" targeting either and trying to manually aim some skills has always been problematic but at least it gives me more to think about than FFXIV healers and I get the Druid Healer that FFXIV teased me with for years only to blue ball me in ShB with Glare mage.
    Fair enough. Much like AST here I'm still waiting for them to commit to the HoT style of healing with NB healer. Especially since they can play with using your own health to do it. But noooooo. Eh. I beat that horse dead enough.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  9. #1819
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    and I get the Druid Healer that FFXIV teased me with for years only to blue ball me in ShB with Glare mage.
    /laughing but also crying
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  10. #1820
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    Rask Crowe
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    Where else is there to go?
    I'd like to know this as well.
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