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    Most probably they haven’t got time to fix it yet, the ps5 version is indeed dropping frames on odd places which it shouldn’t do because of the vastly improved hardware. It’s def not optimized for the ps5 if the ps4 backwards compat mode runs better then the ps5 version.

    The big question is if they will take the dev time for it , before the graphics overhaul, personally I don’t expect they will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EorzeaWanderer View Post
    With all due respect, not all players are sensitive to frame rate fluctuations.

    For many of us, the poor frame rate/constant stuttering was obvious immediately upon starting up the PS5 beta version and unfortunately nothing has changed since.

    It's bad even on the 1080p setting; the resolution settings don't seem to change much.

    This has been documented by Digital Foundry as well:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trIiUXdEyo0

    --> Go to around 29 minutes in for a typical example of how different it is. Constant judder and frame drops plague all hub areas, even housing wards.

    In any case the PS4 version running on the PS5 is the smoothest experience right now if you're on console.
    I just watched the video and I still don't really see it so you're right that not everyone is sensitive to it, I hope they will fix it for those that are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Huh? The PS5 version. Has been released
    It has but it still functions as though it is a beta build. It's pretty rough around the edges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EorzeaWanderer View Post
    With all due respect, not all players are sensitive to frame rate fluctuations.

    For many of us, the poor frame rate/constant stuttering was obvious immediately upon starting up the PS5 beta version and unfortunately nothing has changed since.

    It's bad even on the 1080p setting; the resolution settings don't seem to change much.

    This has been documented by Digital Foundry as well:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trIiUXdEyo0

    --> Go to around 29 minutes in for a typical example of how different it is. Constant judder and frame drops plague all hub areas, even housing wards.

    In any case the PS4 version running on the PS5 is the smoothest experience right now if you're on console.
    Wait-- hold up, stop right there-- what? That is utter nonsense.

    What is even more alarming is the fact that you are using a single video from Digital Foundry to support your argument-- just so we are all very clear, you do realize that Digital Foundry has come under repeated fire for intentionally falsifying performance videos on the PS4 Pro and PS5? You also realize that many gamers have called them out for intentionally making misleading console performance videos to grow their channel through clickbait and polarized media mongering?

    They are a very disreputable source of performance information on consoles and there are at LEAST two or three other very well-known unbiased you-tube channels that call them out on their crap-- go online and do your own research on this.

    I've played this game on all three consoles (PS3, PS4 Pro and PS5) and I can categorically tell you that FFXIV runs smoother than butter on my PS5 console-- heck, there are multitudes of PS5 FFXIV players who stream on Twitch or post their PS5 videos on twitter and the game looks (and feels) great. In addition, here are a few you-tube video examples of other players having no issues:

    Your argument and stipulations about the stuttering or poor frame rates (since the beta?) would have been justified if you simply posted up your own video of the issue here on the forums and a lot of us would have posted up several suggestions to on how to troubleshoot your issues.

    Rather, you're posting potentially highly falsified second-hand fluff as gospel for your issues even though there are literally mountains of FFXIV videos exhibiting the solid sheer performance of the PS5 (even in high volume areas like 24-person raids or in Limsa).

    Like I said-- post your own videos from your own PS5 and several of us can walk you through some suggestions that will vastly improve your console's performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It has but it still functions as though it is a beta build. It's pretty rough around the edges.
    It functions fine for me in 4k mode on a 4k tv. *shrugs*

    Btw I've played this game on PS3, PS4 and the PS5 (both ps4 version and currently the ps5 version) to make comparisons.

    But eh if other people are having issues that sucks
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    Last edited by Rannie; 02-20-2022 at 09:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
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    If you are playing the PS5 version and don't perceive any problems, then great.
    The PS5 version is not *unplayable*.
    It runs, albeit suboptimally.
    Of course people will have gameplay videos of it *running*.

    I'm not "making an argument" that I need to "justify" or "support". No need to do so, when countless others are experiencing the same thing*, and when videos exist featuring the use of frame-rate analytics tools showing that we're not crazy.

    (*Indeed, it is reasonable to assume that *all* players are experiencing the same thing, as there is always a certain percentage of players who are unbothered by or not sensitive to frame rate fluctuations.)

    The PS5 version runs with a choppy, uneven frame rate. It has since beta and it hasn't changed--the PS4 version in back-compat on PS5 is far smoother.
    As such, the PS5 version needs attention from SE.
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    Last edited by EorzeaWanderer; 02-20-2022 at 09:42 AM.

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    Last time I did any serious raid on PS5 was E12 savage before Endwalker, it was just fine performance wise. It's better than many people's GPUs.

    Although I think I know what some people are talking about, you do some larger scale content like alliance raid sometimes it feels like a jumpy frame rate for a few seconds at 1440p. Like it could probably be tuned slightly better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EorzeaWanderer View Post
    If you are playing the PS5 version and don't perceive any problems, then great.
    The PS5 version is not *unplayable*.
    It runs, albeit suboptimally.
    Of course people will have gameplay videos of it *running*.

    I'm not "making an argument" that I need to "justify" or "support". No need to do so, when countless others are experiencing the same thing*, and when videos exist featuring the use of frame-rate analytics tools showing that we're not crazy.

    (*Indeed, it is reasonable to assume that *all* players are experiencing the same thing, as there is always a certain percentage of players who are unbothered by or not sensitive to frame rate fluctuations.)

    The PS5 version runs with a choppy, uneven frame rate. It has since beta and it hasn't changed--the PS4 version in back-compat on PS5 is far smoother.
    As such, the PS5 version needs attention from SE.
    Can you post a short video or clipped 10-sec share of your issue?

    I'm genuinely curious-- this is because on a few of my discords, every single person who had minor issues for FFXIV on the PS5 were totally fine after either redownloading the game, changing to ethernet cables (rather than WiFi) or tweaking a few of their settings particular to their TV type (amoung other things).
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    Huh? I'm on the PS5 cilent and I have little to no issues at all. Maybe I'm lucky but wow...
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    The performance on ps5 is not as good as it could/should be, it's really smooth in some locations, but some fields, Lakeland and Garlemald come to mind, where the frames dip hard in spots when your camera swings certain directions. You can feel the controls get sluggish as it struggles to maintain frames. At least in 1440 mode.

    With that said, it's not unplayable, or the worst thing in the world, it's... fine, but it's disappointing considering the hardware. I'm hyper sensitive to frame dips/stutters, visual artifacts and screen tearing though...(Especially in the sub 60 range) so there is that. For now I simply sit at my PC desk way more than I would like, with hope that they smooth it out a bit.
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