Sundering stuff established in the Q&A

[KageTokage]

That cutscene is not meant to be taken literally and is just a condensed and metaphorical version of the events that transpired during/after the Final Days, though nonetheless still a bit confusing at first glance.

I still was really hoping we'd have actually gotten to see the battle between Hydaelyn and Zodiark, though.

[Lauront]

That cutscene is not meant to be taken literally and is just a condensed and metaphorical version of the events that transpired during/after the Final Days, though nonetheless still a bit confusing at first glance.

I still was really hoping we'd have actually gotten to see the battle between Hydaelyn and Zodiark, though.

When combined with the time travel aspect, it managed to confuse quite a few people as to whether it was effectively a retcon. IMO, the worse aspect of it is the confusion it caused around the disagreement between the factions - given that Yoshi is still referring back to the Anyder scene with reference to her summoners, it is quite clear the SHB source material is still relevant (indeed, is required) to obtain context beyond what was included in that scene, so I think that poster's point remains valid. I'd like to have seen what Kizuya mentioned, and showing the sundering of Zodiark, the star and everyone on it.

[Rannie]

I'd love to see recordings of the convocation's meetings with Venat and her followers or any type of crystal recordings like what we got in the second Anyder but not as choppy >.<

[Absimiliard]

I'm not so sure even Emet-Selch would walk by one of his people getting eaten by a monster and not do something. Remember, he was a genuinely good person back then despite the harsh exterior he maintained. A far cry from the Ascian the WoL dealt with in the First, and certainly far too devoted to his people to just watch them suffer without lifting a hand.

Also: What was even the point in the ad homimage a few posts above? I'm assuming it was bait.

[KizuyaKatogami]

My question is, after all the rage and disagreement with us getting a biased telling of events in ShB from Emet…why do the exact same with Venat? What does that really show lol, or add. Especially when we know said memories can be malleable. Why didn’t we get a pic from someone like say, Elidibus who was trying to play mediator at that point.

[Cleretic]

My question is, after all the rage and disagreement with us getting a biased telling of events in ShB from Emet…why do the exact same with Venat? What does that really show lol, or add. Especially when we know said memories can be malleable. Why didn’t we get a pic from someone like say, Elidibus who was trying to play mediator at that point.

Because the point wasn't to give us 'the truth', the point was to give us 'the counterpoint'. We see the opposing sides, and are given room to decide which one was right in the moment--while recognizing that 'the moment' was twelve thousand years ago and that we stand in a very different context. The point is that neither side was objectively in the right, but was internally making the correct decisions by their own views.

...also, Elidibus is the worst example you could've given, as the heart of Zodiark he was the literal most biased person on the planet. He was never actually playing mediator, he only pretended to twelve thousand years afterwards to build up controlled opposition.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Because the point wasn't to give us 'the truth', the point was to give us 'the counterpoint'. We see the opposing sides, and are given room to decide which one was right in the moment--while recognizing that 'the moment' was twelve thousand years ago and that we stand in a very different context. The point is that neither side was objectively in the right, but was internally making the correct decisions by their own views.

...also, Elidibus is the worst example you could've given, as the heart of Zodiark he was the literal most biased person on the planet. He was never actually playing mediator, he only pretended to twelve thousand years afterwards to build up controlled opposition.

But it literally adds nothing new is my point lol. It doesn’t make Venat look any better. What they probably should have done was show us the sundering itself. Let’s see how people react when they see people being literally torn apart. As for Elidibus how is that the worst example? He says he left Zodiark to try to appease both sides of the conflict. If we saw things through his PoV we’d get to see what both sides were probably actually doing rather then the he said she said nonsense we constantly have gotten.

[Kozh]

He was never actually playing mediator, he only pretended to twelve thousand years afterwards to build up controlled opposition.

In your headcanon maybe, but not in the game. Why would he talked about this when he's dying otherwise.

[Rosenstrauch]

Venat: Glad you could make it, Hades.

Emet-Selch: Watch your tone with me, Venat. We may be friends, but I'm still a member of the Convocation.

Venat: As if I could forget. Listen, Hades, there's something about the Final Days you should know. Oh no. It's too late. These people are all depressed. They may look fine now, but it's a matter of time before they destroy themselves.

Emet-Selch: What?

Venat: This entire world must be purged.

Emet-Selch: How can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way!

Venat: Damn it, Hades. As your future Goddess, I order you to purge this world.

Emet-Selch: You are not my Goddess yet, Venat. Nor would I obey that command if you were!

Venat: Then I must consider this an act of treason.

Emet-Selch: Treason? Have you lost your mind, Venat?

Venat: Have I? Emet-Selch, by my right of succession and the sovereignty of my will, I hereby relieve you from your duty and suspend the Convocation from service.

Azem: Venat, you can't just...

Venat: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this land, follow me. The rest of you... get out of my sight.

Emet-Selch: You've just crossed a terrible threshold, Venat.

Venat: Azem?

Azem: I'm sorry, Venat. I can't watch you do this.

This is nothing more than a shitpost. Don't take it seriously. And anyways, goodbye Lore forum.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Venat: Glad you could make it, Hades.

Emet-Selch: Watch your tone with me, Venat. We may be friends, but I'm still a member of the Convocation.

Venat: As if I could forget. Listen, Hades, there's something about the Final Days you should know. Oh no. It's too late. These people are all depressed. They may look fine now, but it's a matter of time before they destroy themselves.

Emet-Selch: What?

Venat: This entire world must be purged.

Emet-Selch: How can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way!

Venat: Damn it, Hades. As your future Goddess, I order you to purge this world.

Emet-Selch: You are not my Goddess yet, Venat. Nor would I obey that command if you were!

Venat: Then I must consider this an act of treason.

Emet-Selch: Treason? Have you lost your mind, Venat?

Venat: Have I? Emet-Selch, by my right of succession and the sovereignty of my will, I hereby relieve you from your duty and suspend the Convocation from service.

Azem: Venat, you can't just...

Venat: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this land, follow me. The rest of you... get out of my sight.

Emet-Selch: You've just crossed a terrible threshold, Venat.

Venat: Azem?

Azem: I'm sorry, Venat. I can't watch you do this.

This is nothing more than a shitpost. Don't take it seriously. And anyways, goodbye Lore forum.

A lot of us will miss you :c I think we’ll be seeing less from more people now considering how the story went and left many unsatisfied. Wish you the best and stay safe!