<MATERIA> First-Come First-Served AND Lottery Plots

[Shibi]

... on 11/19/2021 states...

What's the 19th month?

[NanaWiloh]

There was a deception they didn't expect this to be a lottery only DC and I'd be willing to bet the decision to go full lotto was known before. That wasn't made clear before people gave up their homes and in Luna's case a large. He was simply expecting along with a lot of others who gave up houses to be in a FCFS environment just like they did when they opened servers in the EU. Very unfair for SE to put out housing rules after people made those decisions to transfer. They should have known what to expect up front

Easy for lotto proponents to poo poo their expectations but most I'm sure expected FCFS and a split in FCFS and LOTTO for Ishgard.

And if I'm not mistaken you are awarded the devalued price of the plot plus 3 million which is probably less than the price he paid but be that as it may the gil isn't sufficient compensation given you can't simply walk up to a plot and purchase a large at will. I don't think he was initially proposing that he was owed a large plot as a replacement but only expected to be able to complete for one outside of the Lottery. He appears now to be somewhat bitter at this point and I don't blame him given that should have been clearly stated before people made their transfers.

He's not in a better place he gave up a significant house to help populate a DC which i might add has only 5 servers. Try and get stuff to queue here when it comes to raids like Rab, Lighthouse and so on. Housing was a significant factor for many when making that transfer along with the better ping.

SE is not obligiated to meet your expections or temper them. Not meeting them does not make SE deceptive it makes you fool hearted. As posted above in the 11/19/2021 live letter. No final decision had been made. People made the choice to move without a final answer, should have held off on moving until a answer was given.

[XiXiQ]

SE is not obligiated to meet your expections or temper them.

Of course business are expected to meet customer expectations. This is just getting silly now.

[Jojoya]

Of course business are expected to meet customer expectations. This is just getting silly now.

Customers expect businesses to meet their expectations. While customers are important, many times their expectations are unrealistic.

Businesses expect to do what is best for business.

I can't call FCFS unrealistic since it's the system already in use but it is bad for business. It gives an unfair advantage to certain customers over the remaining customers. It helps RMT to flourish in housing along with bot usage (both player and RMT). I doubt SE would lose more than a few dozen players over the absence of FCFS.

What's the 19th month?

Some parts of the word use MM/DD/YY instead of DD/MM/YY. It's a reference to the November Live Letter.

[HuaTuo]

This lottery malarkey is a total BS

[NanaWiloh]

Customers expect businesses to meet their expectations. While customers are important, many times their expectations are unrealistic.

Businesses expect to do what is best for business.

I can't call FCFS unrealistic since it's the system already in use but it is bad for business. It gives an unfair advantage to certain customers over the remaining customers. It helps RMT to flourish in housing along with bot usage (both player and RMT). I doubt SE would lose more than a few dozen players over the absence of FCFS.


Some parts of the word use MM/DD/YY instead of DD/MM/YY. It's a reference to the November Live Letter.

Appologize for confusion on the date. Yes its nov 19 2021

[Duskane]

I am ok with half FFA and Half lottery on materia
if it was only DC with all FFA it would be a super easy target for bots and multi account horders
system is clearly not perfect but its better than waiting 18 hours at a sign just to lose it to a auto clicker or relocater

[TwistedTea]

Botters would have no advantage with FCFS. In fact, real players are much more likely to reach a housing plot to snap it up before a dumb bot can. The lottery just gives these RMT and bot users equal odds with a normal player.

This is simply untrue. Housing bots come in all flavours. FCFS ward rushes favour botters using 3rd party launchers, some of which can directly teleport to the placard etc

Saying this as someone who volunteered to find open plots and to keep track of when those plots sold, from Jun 2019 - Mar 2022 for the House Alerts Discord.

And when it comes to placard clicking with FCFS wards, bots do not lose focus or have to rest like human players.

The lottery system does not address the fundamental problem of supply, especially on NA servers.

But the FCFS system significantly favours bots/automation.

Unfortunately SE has gone for blanket approach of applying the lottery to all regions.

Ultimately, the solution is fully instanced housing so that every player who wants a house can get one.

The existing ward housing can exist alongside the fully instanced housing for players who want 'exclusive'/'prestige' or whatever houses. Those players can fight it out amongst themselves.