Gearing up in this game takes way too long in my opinion.

[Sicno]

You're making your case using "worst case scenario". Now if that happens to you then my condolence, but adjusting thing based on extreme scenario will never be a thing. What if someone also have "extreme luck" and manage to get everything in just a month? The same argument can be made about "gearing is too fast".

Good on you to be lucky, but losing against 7 other people every week is still a very likely scenario, way more likely than getting 2 lucky wins back to back.

Edit: and another thing to add is BiS is not an all or nothing. You progressively get there over time. It's not like you waiting for a long time to get "anything". Even if you have to wait 4 months to get your last piece of BiS, that means you were still playing at 80-90% BiS, not day 1 gear over those months. As other had point out, any piece toward your BiS is merely a surplus of what you need and not a mandatory requirement to do the content.

Yeah, but here we're talking about completing a full set, not about "fulfillment along the way".

Edit: The "it's not necessary" argument applies to pretty much anything in this game, that doesn't mean we shouldn't want any of that stuff. Also, be reminded that they've already taken different measures to combat bad luck, like the pages and the gear coffers. They didn't always exist and back then people must have also said "nah loot is fine as it is" and come up with their own anectodal experiences, or those who thought 1000 tomestones for a weapon was fine, but here we are. I don't see why they can't improve the loot system even further.

[Raven2014]

Good on you to be lucky, but losing against 7 other people every week is still a very likely scenario, way more likely than getting 2 lucky wins back to back.

It's not that lucky, taking 2 months to gear out a set is just the average. You're missing the point so I gonna repeat it: the system will always center around the average. Not your extreme case. For the record, across 3 of my PF chars, I win 2 pieces of loot among them in the last 2 weeks across all floor, which is very bad. But I made up for it by better weeks ealier. I never said extreme bad luck can not happen, but if that happens to you for 8 weeks straight then it's very likely scenario, we can try to pull up the math if you actually need proof.

Yeah, but here we're talking about completing a full set, not about "fulfillment along the way".

Sure, but I don't see how that affect what me and some other are saying?

Your argument will make sense if the BiS is gating the content, but since it's not it's really just come down to "it's taking me too long for no other reason than I'm being impatient".

[Nav_Fae]

I wish it didn't cost two weeks' worth of tombs to purchase any single non-accessory piece of gear. Why cannot it not be structured in a way that I could at least get something once per week?

[Liam_Harper]

Gearing is reasonable enough for a main class, but painful for alt classes.

Alt classes keep people playing far more than a loot treadmill. Once players have a raid tier down it's fun to experiment with different classes.

[Saraide]

I feel like people are very quickly ignoring that it's intended for the savage tier to get easier through gearing in the weeks following the fight so the argument that that you can clear it on crafted gear is pretty irrelevant. Yet alt jobs fall out of that despite the fact that the game is supposed to be designed around allowing to play all jobs on one character. I think it would be productive to give some sort of discount for other jobs when you buy a tome item for one job.

[Wiz33]

Never had any problem gearing up, you get most of your gears from MSQ and you can do tomes for Alt. Don't really need the best gear since dungeon synced.

[localareanetwork]

Gearing does not, BiS is just to wave your e peener around saying "look at me, look at me". It should take awhile, it should be earned not given.

Earned by happening to roll a 99?

[Bsrking5]

Earned by happening to roll a 99?

You might as well go full tin foil hat and call everyone who beat whatever current final tier of savage as clear buyers.

[iheartlove42]

FFXIV is a story based MMO. Endgame is just extra content, it's not the main goal for many players or even the devs. The quests and story are. If you want to go play an endgame l337 raider centric MMO I heard Lost Ark is just that. Savage Gear is not the end goal for a majority of players, most players are content with just 570 or 580. 565 or 570 is what'll be needed for the 6.1 alliance raids.

please for every starving kid in africa's sake, please stop mentioning wow, when people want to improve FINAL FANTASY 14 and not wow.

The reason people mention WoW with this stuff is that the devs deciding to start centering the game design around hardcore raiders is what killed WoW and made it unfun. It literally became centered around getting you to max level as fast as possible so you could do endgame at the expense of the rest of the game.

[localareanetwork]

You might as well go full tin foil hat and call everyone who beat whatever current final tier of savage as clear buyers.

What are you even talking about?