Anyone else disappointed that EW final boss's theme wasn't original?

[Skiros]

I was listening to Lost Ark's Abrelshud's OST and I was like, damn I wish this was the Endsinger's theme. Having a mix of different themes from past expansions can certainly feel epic, but I felt like Endsinger was such a foreign boss that doesn't really relate to the previous expansions (lore-wise, not theme-wise) that I wish it had its own theme.


I feel like something akin to this theme (https://youtu.be/omCbuCmXXaU), with a slower tempo and a leitmotif inspired by Ultima Thule would have been perfect for Endsinger. Honestly though a Wagnerian vibe would suit Endsinger, cos she's kinda emo.

Oh, and Soken could have done better too by borrowing from Stravinsky like Uematsu has done for One Winged Angel. Something between Late Romantic and early 20th century.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

I think I made a comparable post to this in the Endwalker thread, but I agree. The Endsinger has been completely absent from Etheirys since the time of Elpis. Having music from Ultima or Ishgard, whom she only has tangential connection to, feels out of place. It doesn't help that those themes have already been remixed a fair bit for other bosses that have better connections (Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, etc.) either.

The Phase 2 music is great, since it does tie to both the WoL and Meteion, but I don't care for the Phase 1 being a generic final boss medley.

[Haruka_R]

I always imagined our eventual showdown with Zenos would be accompanied with the medley. But it was with Endsinger instead.

[GrizzlyTank]

It wasn't the bosses theme though.

It was ours.

[Raoabolic]

It wasn't the bosses theme though.

It was ours.

But it wasn't On the Edge.

[Kranel_San]

Look at the bright side. We will get plenty of Soundtracks for MSQ Season 2 and the next themes are all original, but yeah I hoped the Endsinger would had her own unique theme.

[Jonnycbad]

It was the culmination of our journey thus far, and all the friends and adversaries we made along the way who brought us to this point. Every rival, every friend, every opponent, 100% of them were necessary to lead us up to going back to Elpis, to make Venat sunder everyone to enhance peoples' prowess with using Dynamis, to lead up to us getting to Ultima Thule. It was all one giant long-con culminating with us fighting Meteion to save all of existance.

We needed to encounter Zenos/Shinryu. His death is what led to Elidibus taking his body and led to forcing him to the First where he took on Ardbert's body and eventually into the CT where he remained until we need his time shenanigans in EW.

We needed Hades to raise up the Garlean Empire to build the UW to be our first real major adversary. Hades taught us about Ancients and the true nature of Hydaelyn and Zodiark.

We needed to fight Nidhogg and his hoarde without which Estinien would not have became our ally, without whom we would never be able to recruit Tiamat or Vrtra to our side, without whom we could never build the bridge in Ultima Thule in the Dragonstar sector.

Because of the time loop, everything that led up to the beginning of EW is necessary for our WoL to experience because it leads to them going back to Elpis to tip Venat off, who herself sets events into motion that assure humanity's eventual culmination with us being born as a sundered person with echo and meeting the Scions, etc. It's a perfect and necessary time loop. We are the ones who named Hydaelyn because we told Venat that is who she becomes.

[SeverianLyonesse]

I think I made a comparable post to this in the Endwalker thread, but I agree. The Endsinger has been completely absent from Etheirys since the time of Elpis. Having music from Ultima or Ishgard, whom she only has tangential connection to, feels out of place. It doesn't help that those themes have already been remixed a fair bit for other bosses that have better connections (Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, etc.) either.

The Phase 2 music is great, since it does tie to both the WoL and Meteion, but I don't care for the Phase 1 being a generic final boss medley.

I think it helps to think of the pieces of Ultima Thule as assembling themes/races from the previous expansions, particularly the Dragons of Heavensward/CoB and the Omicrons of Omega. I've seen a theory postulated that the Ea are what remain of Alexander's Gordians but I haven't been able to find good sources for that conclusion.

Anyway, since the dragonstar factored a bit into her backstory, I think the Nidhogg music kind of works, especially as a sort of contrast to Shinryu.

The only theme that doesn't seem to tie well into Endsinger's theme is the Ultima Weapon music. And that may be more rule-of-cool than anything. Although we could maybe make it relevant as a core feature of the Ascian rejoining scheme...

I'm not offended. I would in fact argue it's quite likely the concept of the Endsinger was designed around or at least heavily influenced by a choral musical mashup. It really is a pretty underwhelming final boss concept but if you view it as a celebration of XIV's soundtrack it seems to make a little more sense.

[Caurcas]

Soundtrack has been same-y for a while. Should've moved in a more metal direction.

[HollowedDoll]

For those confused as to why Phase 2 has "Ultima's" theme in it, it's because Maker's Ruin is the Wol's theme, that's why it plays during Omega M/F, and during Ardbert segments.
I agree that Phase 1 would have fit an Ultimate Raid more, however.