Yoshi-P...Please listen to your subscribers

[Kiroh]

Which is why we're pretty much stuck till 2.0, the only problem people had with raising in VII and XI was the fact it took a lot of time to do (even more so in XI given an MMO and all) so all they had to do was cut down the raise time (like they actually did in XI at some point) and it would have been a perfect (and rewarding) system for your personal chocobo.

It's why I say they basically caught in a bad position atm, because they need to please 2 camps of people and it's impossible to do so when one side will get uppity about it.



Funny how it was you who basically stated time commitment is the wrong way, which means it's actually you who should be answering my question, since you basically implied you should be rewarded for no time commitment, if "sacrificing is the only way to get a half decent drop rate."

I never said anything about your way being right or wrong. I said you make it seem like your way is the ONLY right way (implying there is more than one right way). Also, stop trying to deflect and answer my question because I can only assume if you're not providing an answer it's because you don't have one.

Why is one way or the other the only way? Why can we not have some middle ground? Why do you believe it's either hardcore onry or gtfo?

[Daku_Naito]

Which is why we're pretty much stuck till 2.0, the only problem people had with raising in VII and XI was the fact it took a lot of time to do (even more so in XI given an MMO and all) so all they had to do was cut down the raise time (like they actually did in XI at some point) and it would have been a perfect (and rewarding) system for your personal chocobo.

It's why I say they basically caught in a bad position atm, because they need to please 2 camps of people and it's impossible to do so when one side will get uppity about it.

I agree, it is time consuming, but people enjoyed it. Devs always have to please 2 sides, that is where compromise comes in.

[Elexia]

I agree, it is time consuming, but people enjoyed it. Devs always have to please 2 sides, that is where compromise comes in.

Yep. The best compromise is a point system, since for those who complain about committing time to something, they can still build points at their own pace versus those who spam will just get there first.

[Kiroh]

Yep. The best compromise is a point system, since for those who complain about committing time to something, they can still build points at their own pace versus those who spam will just get there first.

Exactly. =o

[Daku_Naito]

Yep. The best compromise is a point system, since for those who complain about committing time to something, they can still build points at their own pace versus those who spam will just get there first.

Agreed, but they better do it right, or people will complain

[Elexia]

Agreed, but they better do it right, or people will complain

Basically lol. I figured they tried with Hamlet, but the general nature of that event didn't help much.

[Kiroh]

Basically lol. I figured they tried with Hamlet, but the general nature of that event didn't help much.

To be fair, even the hardest of hardcore players are a little pissed off about hamlet defense.

[Daku_Naito]

To be fair, even the hardest of hardcore players are a little pissed off about hamlet defense.

Especially with the supposed need of all three items for a item next patch. On top of 25k seals that everyone spent on barding and crap gear.

[Kiroh]

Especially with the supposed need of all three items for a item next patch. On top of 25k seals that everyone spent on barding and crap gear.

The seals aren't that big of an issue if you can find a good duo partner for Toto-rak. But the fact that you need Rank 1-3 provisioner in Hamlet defense to get even one item on a level 2 defense to get even one of the three seals is the slightest bit horribadomgridicucrazy. I'm sorry, I cannot possibly imagine that anyone honestly has 18 hours to pour into an event, much less one where it's practically impossible to get higher than rank 4.

[Gramul]

To be fair, even the hardest of hardcore players are a little pissed off about hamlet defense.

They should at least give something worthwhile for rank 20+ players. Not the best junk mind you, but something worth the amount of time that goes into it.