"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[Deveryn]

I've kindly asked people not to run ahead of me when tanking. I had one person actually go along with it (after they got themselves wrecked). They wait til they get to the exit to post a little snide comment and lmao before exiting. Who's the real child here?

I try to make your life easier by taking the hits, you can return the favor by letting me do that.

I had another instance, where I wasn't the tank. I was bard and this sam wanted to pull ahead of the healer and tank, who were both new to the zone (Dead Ends). He got wrecked once and it didn't stop him. He even early pulled the final boss, but the tank decided to grab aggro before the buster. We had some mishaps on the first and last fights. I offered help when I spotted what was wrong. The sam decided to mouth off to them and got themself kicked. I offered my advice and we cleared on the next pull.

YPYT isn't little energy. It's just a more polite way of saying don't be a ****.

[ForteNightshade]

I see tons of posts about players not knowing how to do their jobs, but how are they supposed to learn if you don't give them the chance?

You don't learn in Shadowbringers or Endwalker dungeons. People typically are far more tolerant of slower tanks at and below 50. By 60 and especially 70, you should know how to do proper wall sized pulls. It's one thing if you're a little gun shy to try some of the crazy pulls like in Bardem's Mettle or Mt. Gulg but if you're still trying to single pull at 70, you clearly aren't ready to tank at higher level content and thus should go back to the lower levels for practice. And no, Gunbreaker being unlocked at 60 doesn't absolve this. The onus is on you to practice if you're never tanked before not to subject 3/7 other players to your learning curve.

What's particularly irksome come Shadowbringers is you have an entire system designed for players who want to take it slow, admire the scenery or simply dislike pulling everything: Trusts. Use them. There is zero excuse to solo queue into 71+ dungeons and demand everyone else cater to your preferences. This applies to both sides, by the way. If I happen to get put into a dungeon with three people who want to take things slow, I'll either adjust accordingly or take the penalty. They have the majority after all. What isn't okay is thinking that just because you're a tank you can demand everyone else goes slow.

[Colt47]

"You pull, you tank"

Full Blue Mage party all runs in with flaming underpants.

[MistakeNot]

If a DPS or healer pulls in front of you as a tank, refusing to grab aggro and watching them die (or not; sometimes the healer or DPS can survive easily) is just petty. It's basically a temper tantrum. It's an "I gotta teach them a lesson" sorta attitude that is frankly kinda cringe.

That's just my opinion! Tanks shouldn't do this!

Don't be silly! It has nothing to do with being petty or teaching them a lesson.
If a healer or DPS insists on pulling, then obviously they WANT to tank. So it is just polite to let them live their tank dream, rather than rudely yank aggro away from them.

[KageTokage]

You'd think people would catch on to the TC's bait after who knows how many topics, but....

[Pyro2hell3]

part of being a good tank is being to tell how big of pull your current party can handle. some party's just can't handle wall to wall pulls.

[Padudu]

Not always. I was in Dead Ends last night. The healer ran ahead constantly from the very moment the circle dropped into mobs before they could even see what the tank was going to pull.

They zoned into the second area after the first boss before everyone else and already had mobs on them (that they didn't bother to bring back) before the tank could even finish zoning. It took the tank a second. The healer died and I laughed IRL. Instant karma.

Maybe instead of encouraging any lone wolf behavior from any role in groups, we encourage team members to be aware of each other and move together as a unit.

Use your sprint button smh

I never really had that much of an issue with people pulling ahead of me tbh, I just go in and retake aggro, gg ez go next if they wanna lone wolf they can, I don't care unless we die lol. And usually if they pull ahead and die they tend to stop anyways, so works for me.

[Kacho_Nacho]

He'll keep posting them until everyone recognizes him as a troll and just talks about recipes or something in his threads.

So...anyone got any recommendations for my slow cooker tomorrow? Made excellent beef stew last week. I need something for my upcoming Horizon Forbidden West and live letter binge session.

How about Pot Roast?

https://www.cookingclassy.com/slow-cooker-pot-roast/

[Vrankyl]

As someone who has tanked a lot for the better part of the last two years, I'm confused how people even manage to get ahead of the tank and pull mobs for them. Are ya'll frequently afking or something?

In FF it is a lot less of the DPS getting ahead of the tank per se, and more of the DPS running off and pulling after the healer or tank say BRB or something. Or the lovely people who decide that tanks waiting on cut scene people in 24 mans is a terrible thing and pull first. In those cases, the DPS deserves death without mercy. After all, there is no real penalty to dying in game not to mention the hilarious time I saw a dps do that when all 6 healers were watching cut scenes. The blood bath was amazing and it was a once in a lifetime thing to witness.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Imo if you want to pull mobs at your pace, play as a tank. If you aren't a tank stay in your lane