"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[Boblawblah]

So you're using "gamble your account if you say anything" based on a single suspension that happened almost a decade ago that you can't really remember clearly, and you have no evidence that shows that what you said happened, actually happened as you said.

lol

[Kolaina]

So you're using "gamble your account if you say anything" based on a single suspension that happened almost a decade ago that you can't really remember clearly, and you have no evidence that shows that what you said happened, actually happened as you said.

lol

You do you. If you feel it’s worth the risk. I put out there what happened. You can clearly see my account had a violation. Violations can turn into suspended accounts. You can clearly see it was about participation. That’s open for interpretation by the GMs. You can try all you want to discredit me. But I’d rather focus on keeping my account free from any other reports. Go ahead and “lol” because you don’t want to believe that what you advocate for is griefing and a violation of the ToS which can result in consequences. It’s your money

[Kolaina]

god are you all not intelligent.

Projecting if I’ve ever seen a clearer case

[MaxCarnage]

equally breaching tos in that 2nd sentence.

You can't just make up the Terms of Service as you go along.

[Ravenblade1979]

You can't just make up the Terms of Service as you go along.

"■Prohibited Behavior in Final Fantasy XIV
In Final Fantasy XIV, obstructive behavior that has an adverse impact on other users' gameplay, or operation of service, is prohibited. Such behavior violates the Final Fantasy XIV User Agreement and Square Enix Account Terms of Use. If a violation is confirmed as a result of our investigations, Square Enix may, in its sole discretion, issue a penalty to the relevant Final Fantasy XIV service account. Please refer to "Account Penalty Policy" for details of the penalties."

note where it says "has an adverse impact on other users gameplay".

Under Obstruction of gameplay

"・Aiding the enemy / Uncooperative behavior / Lethargic behavior
Refers to an act of performing actions that give an advantage to an enemy (monsters, or the opposing team/players in PvP content) by not performing the necessary gameplay required of the situation. This may be combined with combat sabotage as well.
Key Points
Each player has a different level of skill, and in some cases, there may be a situation where the duty/content will fail. From the perspective of a skilled player in such a situation, a less skilled player may appear to be "adversarial/uncooperative/apathetic," but even if this is the case, it is not a violation as long as the player is playing appropriately."

now the final part of that is worth noteing because if you again see the toxic behavior from tank then there is a breach. however thats not why im pointing these out. im pointing these out because people say "3 people can dictate the speed...if tank don't like it they can suck it up, leave or be reported for not cooperating". that is where i got the issue. you are being equally as toxic and are still breaching tos.

[Nestama]

now the final part of that is worth noteing because if you again see the toxic behavior from tank then there is a breach. however thats not why im pointing these out. im pointing these out because people say "3 people can dictate the speed...if tank don't like it they can suck it up, leave or be reported for not cooperating". that is where i got the issue. you are being equally as toxic and are still breaching tos.

Funny how you call the 3 people voting in favour of w2w dictators, when a dictatorship is really the 1 person deciding what the party should do even after 3/4 agree that they want to w2w.

But hey, I guess it's not toxic when the tank dictates what everyone should do, right?

[Kyasunshine]

Funny how you call the 3 people voting in favour of w2w dictators, when a dictatorship is really the 1 person deciding what the party should do even after 3/4 agree that they want to w2w.

But hey, I guess it's not toxic when the tank dictates what everyone should do, right?

most casuals dictate to the minority how to play the game. Minority listening? Usially I hear a bad noise from hardcore gamers. And they don't really want to respect the majority.

[Miracle_Diva]

most casuals dictate to the minority how to play the game. Minority listening? Usially I hear a bad noise from hardcore gamers. And they don't really want to respect the majority.

I need examples or screenshots. Please provide.

[Nestama]

most casuals dictate to the minority how to play the game. Minority listening? Usially I hear a bad noise from hardcore gamers. And they don't really want to respect the majority.

I am a casual player, mate. I play maybe once or twice a week (in total 1-4 hours a week).

[Kyasunshine]

I have a question for you guys. Do you love this game? Do you feel like you're playing fantasy when you enter DF, or do you feel like you're going to work?

Tanks are not leaders. But in terms of squad building, they are definitely ahead. And it would be better if they pulled. When playing FF1 or later, didn't you put the healers in the back row and the tougher guys in the front?

I don't understand. I don't understand why people in this game play this game as a job. Why don't you play this game like fantasy? Why if I play heal or dps I stay behind the tank? Because it's cool. Because it's fantasy. MMORPG. Roleplay. The role of the tank is to protect the squad. The role of DPS and healers is to be behind the wall.

I feel like I'm the only one who plays this game as a game and not as a job.

Why, if I play a healer, then I feel like Aeris from ff7. I care about the health of the squad and this is important. Why do all healers have a dps mentality?


Forgive me if I sound harsh. And yes. Amendment. I quit playing a week ago. I don't feel like fantasy players. 90% of the people I meet don't feel like passionate people. The accumulation of animals, reputation, mounts and other collectibles is not RP. It's just a collection. I agree, this is also important. But I just feel empty in my soul while playing this game. All classes are dps. No one wants to go to the easy version of the boss just like that. For music and atmosphere. It must be a mount or collectible item.

Damn, I went whining again. I will be glad if you convince me and I will download this wonderful game again. But reading the forum and other channels, I see only the desire for dry numbers. As a paladin, I want to use healing. Feel important. This is bad? Want to play the game like an RPG, not like an M+ simulator from Warcraft. Where time really matters.

No, I'm not a troll. I am honest in my feelings for you. I want to play fantasy world with players. But reading this thread, it seems that this style of play is not welcome in MMOs. I want to be wrong.

https://imgur.com/a/PouKT60

Fantasy must be fantasy.