"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[KariTheFox]

Lets put it this way. Had a twitchy, jump happy Black Mage decide he was going to sprint ahead and pull at the onset of Mt. Gulg.

All this while I was setting everything up, tank stance, bit of food, making sure everything was set for monster pulls (that you can actually do in that instance).

Dude lasted about 3 hits before I got there and got my first AoE in.

Moral of the story: If you can't take a few hits, don't go in front of the tank whether you're a healer or a dps.

You know, you can pop your stance and food as soon as you load into the dungeon, before you can even leave the little cutscene circle. Failing that, you can do it while running towards the first pack. How'd you let the BLM take three attacks before catching up? Did you not use sprint? Did you not gap-close? Personally, I'd be ashamed of myself if I let a DPS die because I was spending too much time at the start of the dungeon "activating my tank stance" .

[Deceptus]

You know, you can pop your stance and food as soon as you load into the dungeon, before you can even leave the little cutscene circle. Failing that, you can do it while running towards the first pack. How'd you let the BLM take three attacks before catching up? Did you not use sprint? Did you not gap-close? Personally, I'd be ashamed of myself if I let a DPS die because I was spending too much time at the start of the dungeon "activating my tank stance" .

Generally I do, and generally I am the first one out of the gate sprinting away.

Didn't happen this time for some reason or another. Was I being malicious? No. They just out paced me. BLM's have a much longer range than tanks do. Did I giggle a bit and then sigh afterwards when they bit the dust? Neither confirm nor deny.

Choices and actions have consequences and that BLM learned them. Hopefully they don't repeat.

[TaleraRistain]

You know, you can pop your stance and food as soon as you load into the dungeon, before you can even leave the little cutscene circle. Failing that, you can do it while running towards the first pack. How'd you let the BLM take three attacks before catching up? Did you not use sprint? Did you not gap-close? Personally, I'd be ashamed of myself if I let a DPS die because I was spending too much time at the start of the dungeon "activating my tank stance" .

Why didn't the BLM have party situational awareness? The deal with a tank pulling isn't that they're the leader or the only one who can ever pull. It's that this is the role that is going to keep the aggro off the squishies so the squishies can do their jobs without worry. Why is it such a big deal to so many people on this thread to just stay with the party and move together? So if the tank needs a beat at first, just stay there a second until they move. If they continued to not move, then something could be asked in chat. But this whole thread wouldn't even be an issue if there more people of any role kept awareness of their party so the party could work as a team.

[Ath192]

Why didn't the BLM have party situational awareness? The deal with a tank pulling isn't that they're the leader or the only one who can ever pull. It's that this is the role that is going to keep the aggro off the squishies so the squishies can do their jobs without worry. Why is it such a big deal to so many people on this thread to just stay with the party and move together? So if the tank needs a beat at first, just stay there a second until they move. If they continued to not move, then something could be asked in chat. But this whole thread wouldn't even be an issue if there more people of any role kept awareness of their party so the party could work as a team.

Because you have entered into a reality distortion field where normal social behavior and things like being reasonable or rational are not part of this universe.

Also the OP likes it this way. The thread is tagged as follows (for those who never read the fine print at the bottom):

you bait you tank truststankbetter troll feeding grounds mom says im the leader

[AbysmalDuck]

Why didn't the BLM have party situational awareness? The deal with a tank pulling isn't that they're the leader or the only one who can ever pull. It's that this is the role that is going to keep the aggro off the squishies so the squishies can do their jobs without worry. Why is it such a big deal to so many people on this thread to just stay with the party and move together? So if the tank needs a beat at first, just stay there a second until they move. If they continued to not move, then something could be asked in chat. But this whole thread wouldn't even be an issue if there more people of any role kept awareness of their party so the party could work as a team.

Because the elitists have this pre-conceived notion that every tank that doesn't wall-to-wall is doing it to intentionally grief.

[LeonKeyh]

Because the elitists have this pre-conceived notion that every tank that doesn't wall-to-wall is doing it to intentionally grief.

Only the ones who don't pick up aggro whenever someone else pulls.

[ErysNight]

Why didn't the BLM have party situational awareness? The deal with a tank pulling isn't that they're the leader or the only one who can ever pull. It's that this is the role that is going to keep the aggro off the squishies so the squishies can do their jobs without worry. Why is it such a big deal to so many people on this thread to just stay with the party and move together? So if the tank needs a beat at first, just stay there a second until they move. If they continued to not move, then something could be asked in chat. But this whole thread wouldn't even be an issue if there more people of any role kept awareness of their party so the party could work as a team.

Because this makes too much sense, and we're supposed to just accept that the tank is the baddy and the DPS is innocent despite each class having specific roles and public content is TEAM PLAY.

I love how you wrote, the tank isn't the leader or the only one who can ever pull. I only hopped on this thread because it was DPS centric. I get badass healers that will run a bit ahead of me and star the pull all the time and that is 100% ok to me. They are the ones that really control the pace of the dungeon. So I trust that they've seen the DPS is performing well enough to burn the pack down quickly enough and they can keep me alive.

The only HP that matters is the last one. I love an aggressive, DPSing, leading healer. Most of the time, these awesome healers also know how to use chat and just say "pull more" etc.