"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[LeonKeyh]

There are many layers to this that people argue not realizing that they're not mutually exclusive:


1. YPYT is a terrible mindset and is the equivalent of a temper tantrum. A tank that doesn't pick up the mobs are being petty.

2. DPS shouldn't be pulling. I could see the healer pulling if they feel like they can handle more, but DPS shouldn't really be the ones pulling.

3. As a tank, your game play doesn't change whether there are 2 mobs or 20 mobs hitting you. You still AE, you still use cooldowns. Might be slightly more difficult to track all of the mobs to make sure you're hitting them, but that's rarely a problem.

4. Healers should really be the ones determining the pace (even more so than tanks), since healers are the ones that ultimately affected the most with more mobs. Healers pulling ahead is fine.

5. This is "a thing" way more than it actually should be. I feel like the people making a big deal on it on either side are just looking for something to get upset about.

[Saraide]

There are many layers to this that people argue not realizing that they're not mutually exclusive:


1. YPYT is a terrible mindset and is the equivalent of a temper tantrum. A tank that doesn't pick up the mobs are being petty.

2. DPS shouldn't be pulling. I could see the healer pulling if they feel like they can handle more, but DPS shouldn't really be the ones pulling.

3. As a tank, your game play doesn't change whether there are 2 mobs or 20 mobs hitting you. You still AE, you still use cooldowns. Might be slightly more difficult to track all of the mobs to make sure you're hitting them, but that's rarely a problem.

4. Healers should really be the ones determining the pace (even more so than tanks), since healers are the ones that ultimately affected the most with more mobs. Healers pulling ahead is fine.

5. This is "a thing" way more than it actually should be. I feel like the people making a big deal on it on either side are just looking for something to get upset about.

DPS players can just as easily observe and judge if another set of mobs is possible (really only a thing in older dungeons anyway). Every player is required for pulls, if your dps are garbage players then even good tanks and healers will struggle at pulls just because resources are limited.
I wouldnt say healers should be the ones determining pull size, I would say their skill level is determining what's possible. This is an important distinction I think because no one in the party should have the right to hold everyone else back just because they didnt feel like contributing.