Thread: 2.0 PLEASE DELIVERRRR!

Originally Posted by viion

You have no proof or source on the number of people it will be, or how big an alliance will be. I am pretty sure this has not been confirmed. You also dont know if content will scale or not, or even how it will work.

In GW2 dragon fights can hold 300 people, but do you need that? lol no, because everyone joins in, and it scales. So regardless of who is online, you can at least do it. This is the future. Being able to do shit!

That said, it doesnt matter what you say, you're missing the point that current the game has nearly no players, and if it doesnt step up to have anymore in 2.0, then having 25-30+ people content will just either fail or require same community results as it did was in XI.

In XI, during its prime you could do Dynamis and all end-game content with your LS, then as things died and people got richer, people made shells specifically for Dynamis, and hosted it themselfs. Players had to sort this out, so that might happen again, infact i guarantee it will happen as we already see it similar now with the shout PUG for everything in XIV, having a "endgame".

If the game starts making content requiring lots of people when it doesnt have the population to sustain this, you will begin to alienate a lot of your player base, firstly with Casuals.

if yoshi-p need more then 40 char display at once that added the mobs how many people you think it going to be? I understand the need for casual but sadly this is a mmo there people who don't want to waste there time doing 4-8man boring raids when they could come out with a fun 24+man raid.

I'm sure they release more casual events but yoshi-p said many time he want to add stuff that = more player base and the idea of free company the point of it all is to have raids and events to be done with more players.

anyways we should get back on topic.

Originally Posted by viion

The 40 display also includes mobs, this is why you cant have big beastmen forts or massive raids, because the display is both PC and NPC. (Even some Environment Objects are PCs).

That is why you need more than 40.

But the Content finder be in place, so hopefully that might work. Maybe, if the population right rises. Right not it wouldnt, just like the search function doesnt work lol. (it works functionally, people just dont use it).

at the end it's a online game i don't want to play with only 7 other players i want to fight a raid with 24+ players or even a event that take up to 36 playes it just fun playing with more then 7 other players and i'm sure that going to happen in ffxiv. Yoshi-p have said it many time so i don't see why not can't wait for it.

Originally Posted by viion

Oh i completely agree, but again, it depends weather SE want to make a few people happy, or everyone happy.

Scalable content is the way to go, you can go in with 40 people, and it be hard as hell, with giant mobs and more mobs and all that jizz jam, or you can go in with 5 people and still be able to do it, as it scales.

ya but yoshi-p said many time he want to add more content that = more people that the point of the new tool that allow to display more players and mobs. making casual players happy is ok but they dont' last long yoshi-p need to make hardcore player happy also which would play this game for years too come like myself who play ffxi for 6year and going to play ffxiv too there a new ff online game.

Originally Posted by viion

That is fine, but you and the minority like you dont pay the bills that SE Meet,

Now wait just a minute there. Core gamers might be in the 'minority', but they tend to stick with things longer. And for an MMO, committed players are its strongest asset. That's partly why SWtoR is doing so poorly at the moment. Many casual players have moved on.

Originally Posted by viion

That is fine, but you and the minority like you dont pay the bills that SE Meet, so they have to compromise somewhere and make something for everyone. Still there is no reason for it. GW2 you can go in 200-300 battle fights without needing a single person because of that particular fight is made, so players, casual or hardcore can both experience something difficult, requiring a lot of people, but not be scarified to have to play the game like it is a job.

And Yoshi wants more open world stuff, not so much instanced, just like a fair amount does, but that doesnt mean you HAVE to have a full pt of 35 to complete..

it seem your like to solo or do stuff with little amount of player sadly this is a mmo and should be playing with more then 8 player and it going to be like that because even casual games like wow have raids that have over 25 players. Also a person who pay for 6years vs a casual player that play on and off which would you take? they both pay the game but the hardcore player is a long time paying for the game.

I'm sure they release more casual stuff but at the end this is a MMO and endgame would mean 25+ players.

Also with dungeon finder casual players can log in and do a ifrit or moogle or a 8 man raid with anyone in every world so i don't see a issue with that but for 25+raids it going to be done with free company just like the guild system in wow.