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    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Why are you saying anything if you're not capped at 90. The whole reason why Fire IV was buffed to 310 is because Paradox was too close of Fire IV DPS and Paradox Mage became a thing. Paradox Mage is a meme that shouldn't exist like Dragon Kick spam Monk right now.

    You shouldn't calc things as pure potency but the potency per second.

    310 *1.8 from Astral Fire is 558 Potency for 2.8s. 199.28 PPS.
    500 Potency from Paradox in a 2.5s is 200 PPS.

    With BiS Spellspeed
    558 Potency for Fire IV in 2.47s = 225.91 PPS
    500 Potency from Paradox under 2.2s is 227.27 PPS

    Back in ShB, I recalled people skipping Blizzard IV because Fire I wasn't great but because it turns into a spell that deals better damage than Fire IV in which, can be used in both your form, you probably should stick to use Fire I until you're level 90.
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    Xander_Diabolos's Avatar
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    Xander Drakkan
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Why are you saying anything if you're not capped at 90. The whole reason why Fire IV was buffed to 310 is because Paradox was too close of Fire IV DPS and Paradox Mage became a thing. Paradox Mage is a meme that shouldn't exist like Dragon Kick spam Monk right now.

    You shouldn't calc things as pure potency but the potency per second.

    310 *1.8 from Astral Fire is 558 Potency for 2.8s. 199.28 PPS.
    500 Potency from Paradox in a 2.5s is 200 PPS.

    With BiS Spellspeed
    558 Potency for Fire IV in 2.47s = 225.91 PPS
    500 Potency from Paradox under 2.2s is 227.27 PPS

    Back in ShB, I recalled people skipping Blizzard IV because Fire I wasn't great but because it turns into a spell that deals better damage than Fire IV in which, can be used in both your form, you probably should stick to use Fire I until you're level 90.
    Astral Fire isn't a spell... Fire IV is, but I know what you mean.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...J2Sykbrw/edit#
    I found a good source for PPS.

    High level BLM concepts has... (I think they added in casting frames)
    Xenoglossy = 304 PPS
    Despair = 197.42 PPS
    Fire IV (AF) = 192.41 PPS
    Paradox (AF) = 192.31 PPS
    Fire III (AF3) = 187.2 PPS
    Fire = 119.23 PPS
    Fire III (UI3) = 72.8 PPS
    Blizzard III (AF3) = 72.8 PPS
    I can see potential Fire to refresh AF3 if it means I get another Fire IV in.

    Cast Order: Fire III, Fire IV, Fire IV, Fire III, Fire IV, Fire IV, Fire IV, Despair
    Total Potency: 4130
    Total Time: 20.5
    201 PPS

    Cast Order: Fire III, Fire IV, Fire IV, Fire IV, Fire, Fire IV, Fire IV, Fire IV, Despair
    Total Potency: 4544
    Total Time: 22.3
    203 PPS

    With Fire III having higher PPS than Fire... I figured it would be better, but it does appear to be slightly higher with fire due to the additional MP to cast another Fire IV before refreshing astral fire. The reason I am looking into it before I am 90 is so I know how to do things when I am 90.

    I do still like my Transpose vs Blizzard III idea since Transpose is still off global cooldown and only 72.8 PPS
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